Parliamentary search - Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill

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2006-07

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Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 74-EN also published.
Wednesday, 23 May 2007
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Baroness Andrews | 693 c1382 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 136: 136: Clause 64, page 35, line 41, leave out from ““arrangements”” to end ...

Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1382 (Link to this contribution) We at least owe it to the Minister to thank her for explaining that, rather than ““Changing governan...

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Baroness Crawley | 693 c1382 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.

Baroness Pitkeathley | 693 c1382 (Link to this contribution) As Amendment No. 136 has been agreed to, I cannot call Amendment No. 137 for reasons of pre-emption....

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1380-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 129: 129: Clause 64, page 35, leave out lines 16 to 31 and insert— ““33C Alter...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1378 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 128: 128: Clause 64, page 35, leave out lines 4 to 10 The noble Lord said: Th...

Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1378-9 (Link to this contribution) My Amendments Nos. 128B and 153 would achieve the same ends as those tabled by my noble friend Lord ...

Baroness Hanham | 693 c1376 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 127: 127: Clause 64, page 35, line 3, at end insert— ““33ZA Changing governanc...

Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1376-7 (Link to this contribution) My Amendment No. 128A would do exactly the same as the amendment tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady ...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1377 (Link to this contribution) I have three amendments in this group, but I am happy not to pursue them and to support the proposal...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1377-8 (Link to this contribution) There is a temptation, which I shall certainly resist, of having the debate we had when we opened th...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 693 c1380 (Link to this contribution) I must point out to the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to I shall not be able to call Am...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1380 (Link to this contribution) I cannot say that I understood all of that at the first go, so I shall read it carefully in Hansard....

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1372 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the noble Lord is so supportive of our attempt to create unitaries. I am so sorr...

Lord Tyler | 693 c1371-2 (Link to this contribution) I warmly support my noble friend. My local county council in Cornwall is currently engaged—successfu...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1371 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 118: 118: Clause 62, page 33, line 39, after ““(8)”” insert ““— (a)”” The nob...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1375 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure whether it is one cheer or two, but it is not three. Any cheers are welcome at this ti...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1374-5 (Link to this contribution) I can give the noble Lord a positive answer on Amendment No. 123A, which aims to ensure that the ame...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1373-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 123A: 123A: Clause 63, page 34, line 20, at end insert— ““(1A) Nothing in subs...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1372-3 (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed by that. It is horses for courses. What will work well in one area might be quite ...

Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1370-1 (Link to this contribution) Rather as my noble friend Lady Scott said, I am slightly hesitant in making a point about reducing c...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1371 (Link to this contribution) I can explain it a little more clearly now. We are obviously content that a council that wishes to m...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1369 (Link to this contribution) This has been an extremely useful discussion. I am not sure that the Minister wanted it to go on qui...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1369 (Link to this contribution) Yes; the noble Baroness is right.

Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1369-70 (Link to this contribution) Our Amendment No. 159C is grouped with Amendment No. 116 and has exactly the same effect. I hope tha...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1369 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 116: 116: Clause 62, page 33, line 37, leave out subsection (8) and insert— ““...

Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1368-9 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to come in again but I think it is useful to keep clearing these issues out of the way, e...

Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1369 (Link to this contribution) Do the executive have the powers to make the plan, rather than it being a matter for the whole counc...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1369 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, that is correct. Did the noble Baroness ask another question?

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1370 (Link to this contribution) Amendments Nos. 116 and 159C would amend the Local Government Act 2000 and remove the Secretary of S...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1367-8 (Link to this contribution) That was the most encouraging thing that I have heard in the past two or three hours: the Minister s...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1366 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord asked an important question for which my answer is simple, because it is consistent w...

Lord Tyler | 693 c1366 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the noble Baroness and to the Committee—I followed the earlier debate, but maybe my p...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1366 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord and I are at one in thinking that this has to be about better services and better way...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1365-6 (Link to this contribution) I understand that very well, but it does not seem very sensible. Single-member wards might end up no...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1365 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, but this is modelled on the elected mayor. There are so many parallels of a DEE with an ...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1365 (Link to this contribution) There may be two-thirds if there is an elected mayor. If there is a normal executive and Cabinet ope...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1365 (Link to this contribution) It is modelled on the elected mayor.

Lord Greaves | 693 c1365 (Link to this contribution) Why two-thirds?

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1367 (Link to this contribution) We have brought in four-year terms, not just for this model but for others as well, to introduce som...

Baroness Hanham | 693 c1366-7 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry; I must pick that up. The people elect the executive for four years, and do not like what...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1364 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is right that the executive could be of a different party from the council compos...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1364-5 (Link to this contribution) It is interesting to imagine how such a council might work. The Minister is eloquent in describing i...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1364 (Link to this contribution) It is novel in our experience in the UK. However, there are examples from Switzerland and Portugal, ...

Baroness Hanham | 693 c1364 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister delve a little more deeply into what the other members of the elected council will...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1363 (Link to this contribution) It came from the elected members. That puts a little more substance around what I can see noble Lord...

Baroness Hamwee | 693 c1363-4 (Link to this contribution) We are grateful for that and will have a good read of it. We will come later to parts of the Bill th...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1362-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to resume the debate on the amendment. It was a good idea to break...

Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 693 c1363 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister say where from Stockton this letter came? Was it generated by the elected members ...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1368 (Link to this contribution) I will reply very briefly. On by-elections and ward councillors, if this model is adopted, people wi...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1365 (Link to this contribution) The budget process will be the same as now; the council as a whole will still have charge of it. If ...

Baroness Hanham | 693 c1378 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that not totally unexpected reply. This group of amendments brings us almos...

Baroness Andrews | 693 c1379-80 (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments makes amendments to Clauses 62 and 64 which deal with local authorities cha...

Lord Greaves | 693 c1371 (Link to this contribution) The Minister puts her finger on what alarms me about the situation. I am less alarmed that the provi...

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