European Union (Information, etc.) Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 3 agreed to. Remaining clauses agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.
European Union (Information, etc.) Bill [HL]
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Thursday, 1 March 2007,
in the House of Lords,
led by Lord Dykes.
The answering
member was Baroness Royall of Blaisdon.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
689 c1731-52 
Session
2006-07
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Newton of Braintree | 689 c1747 (Link to this contribution)
Forgive me; one thing on which I am sure the noble Lord was quite right is that everyone wants to go...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1748 (Link to this contribution)
We recognise the flag just as other member states do. It is the flag of the European Union.
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1748 (Link to this contribution)
How have the Government brought this change into effect when the flag itself does not have legal sta...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1750 (Link to this contribution)
And central Asia?
Lord Dykes | 689 c1748 (Link to this contribution)
I want to give my own view on this and to reassure the noble Lord, Lord Howell, that there is absolu...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1749 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to correct a slip of the tongue I made earlier when I said that the new regulations would com...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 689 c1749 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for clarifying in this short debate where we have got to on this quest...
Lord Cobbold | 689 c1750 (Link to this contribution)
The twinning arrangements would and should exist if we were not part of the Union, based on one’s ow...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1750 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to learn that. We should encourage those initiatives and perhaps give up the twinning...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1750 (Link to this contribution)
And with the USA?
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1752 (Link to this contribution)
In that case, I am so delighted to hear that Richmond is twinned with Richmond, Virginia, that I am ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1751 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate. I remain unrepentant that I thin...
Lord Watson of Richmond | 689 c1752 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of clarification, Richmond in Surrey is twinned with Koblenz, with Versailles, and with R...
Lord Dykes | 689 c1750 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that this is a convenient moment for me to say that I remain somewhat shocked by the comments...
Lord Monson | 689 c1750-1 (Link to this contribution)
I too oppose the clause, albeit for somewhat different reasons from those of the noble Lord, Lord Pe...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1741 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to intervene, but it has been suggested under a monopoly power of proposal by the Commiss...
Lord Dykes | 689 c1740-1 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I meant that by definition. I was using shorthand again with a natural desire to save time...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1741-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken because they have demonstrated clearly what a Europ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1742-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Lord. No doubt that is something we could consider at the next stage...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 689 c1743 (Link to this contribution)
This is the flag-waving clause, and it seems extraordinary. I do not understand how such a clause co...
Lord Cobbold | 689 c1743 (Link to this contribution)
I feel that the European Union flag needs an improved status, but I would say that the clause should...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1744 (Link to this contribution)
It is a rare pleasure and honour to join the Conservative Front Bench in agreeing on a European matt...
Lord McNally | 689 c1744-5 (Link to this contribution)
I suggest that the noble Lord, Lord Howell, takes the Marshalled List home and gets it framed, so th...
Lord Monson | 689 c1745 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord. In that case, he will have to change the word ““shall”” to ““may””....
Lord Dykes | 689 c1745 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. There is no question of any compulsion in this sense...
Lord Monson | 689 c1745 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with everything that the noble Lords, Lord Howell and Lord Pearson, have said, which is hard...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1746 (Link to this contribution)
Quite frankly, I do not know whether he is a Frenchman or not, but the implication was that I might ...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 689 c1746 (Link to this contribution)
I am intrigued by the last remark, which drew a very clear distinction between the nation state and ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1745 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister gives his reply—and I do not want to prolong the debate—I cannot let the noble L...
Lord McNally | 689 c1745 (Link to this contribution)
I made the comparison to an Arsenal manager.
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1746-7 (Link to this contribution)
I was just coming to the noble Lord's strictures on the democratic process; but he has again confuse...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1746 (Link to this contribution)
No, we love and respect that. But that falls under the history and culture of the nations of Europe,...
Lord Dykes | 689 c1731 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Moved acc...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1732 (Link to this contribution)
Despite my general support for the Bill’s aim of providing more information to the British public ab...
Lord Dykes | 689 c1731-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:
1: Clause 1, page 1, line 4, at end insert ““where indicated by the Secreta...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 689 c1733 (Link to this contribution)
I echo the reservations of the Minister on these amendments. I am puzzled over how they reduce, in a...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1733 (Link to this contribution)
It may be helpful if I set out the Government’s position on the amendment. In doing so, I pay tribut...
Lord Dykes | 689 c1733-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to noble Lords and to the Minister for their contributions to this argument. I reitera...
Lord Dykes | 689 c1739-40 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, for proposing this interesting amendment. That d...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1739 (Link to this contribution)
I speak not as a frightened rabbit, but as a member of a Government who are proud to be a member of ...
Lord Watson of Richmond | 689 c1738-9 (Link to this contribution)
It is always a pleasure to be engaged in debate with the noble Lord, Lord Pearson. He has always bro...
Lord Cobbold | 689 c1738 (Link to this contribution)
By people such as himself and by newspaper journalists who would put the negative case if they belie...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1738 (Link to this contribution)
How would the noble Lord ensure that the Euro-sceptic case is put before the British people, if he t...
Lord Cobbold | 689 c1738 (Link to this contribution)
Having just stepped off a train from Brussels, I have to say that I am very much in favour of the ma...
Lord Monson | 689 c1737-8 (Link to this contribution)
I wholly agree with the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, in his exposé of the farce of the doctrine of subs...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1734-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 3:
3: Clause 1, page 1, line 16, at end insert—
““(5) All information provided ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1740 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether I might just put the noble Lord straight. It is not a Bill to withdraw from the Eur...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1747-8 (Link to this contribution)
I look forward to debating some of these issues on a future occasion, because they are terribly impo...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 689 c1749-50 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 3 encourages twinning between towns in the United Kingdom and elsewhere. As such it is not we...
Lord Dykes | 689 c1741 (Link to this contribution)
Again, I think that the noble Lord misunderstands how those mechanisms work. The way in which the Mi...
Lord Monson | 689 c1742 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord for giving way. On the subsection concerning ““to hold no opinion””, the way ...
Lord McNally | 689 c1746 (Link to this contribution)
I have been a member of the European movement for 40 years, and I have never hesitated in putting fo...
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