Mental Health Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 3 agreed to. Schedule 1 agreed to.
Mental Health Bill [HL]
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Monday, 8 January 2007,
in the House of Lords.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
688 c11-90
Session
2006-07
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Mental Health Bill (HL) . Explanatory Notes also published (HL Bill 1-EN )
Thursday, 16 November 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Thursday, 16 November 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 688 c82-3 (Link to this contribution)
The background to these amendments has already been stated, but I briefly want to look at their impo...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 688 c83-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to noble Lords for tabling Amendments Nos. 4 and 5. My noble friend Lord Hunt mentione...
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Lord Alderdice | 688 c85 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may clarify what the Minister said, because I was really quite struck by it. It is not at ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 688 c85 (Link to this contribution)
The key question is whether the person has a mental disorder and how the criteria for that mental di...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 688 c80 (Link to this contribution)
I support Amendment No. 5. It would be wrong to prevent the treatment of someone suffering from alco...
Lord Alderdice | 688 c81-2 (Link to this contribution)
It seems to me that this particular group brings us to the heart of some real difficulties in applyi...
Lord Alderdice | 688 c85 (Link to this contribution)
That would be extremely helpful, because it seems to me that the Minister’s answer does not clarify ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 688 c85-8 (Link to this contribution)
I shall certainly write to the noble Lord.
I am not aware that it is suggested that the commission,...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 688 c88 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness, Lady Murphy, in one of her fascinating contributions—she opens a world to me of ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 688 c88 (Link to this contribution)
Of course we will consider the point of view that might be expressed by that group of people. But we...
Baroness Barker | 688 c70-1 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister said at the beginning of his remarks that if the amendment in the name of the noble Lor...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c71 (Link to this contribution)
I would prefer to write to the noble Baroness on some of the points that she raises. As a general po...
Earl Howe | 688 c68 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Rix, has once again spoken very powerfully on an issue in whichhe is an expert....
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c68-70 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Rix. I read his speech on Second Reading, and I understoo...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 688 c67-8 (Link to this contribution)
I persuaded the noble Lord, Lord Rix, that he could escape from Wimbledon while his neighbours were ...
Lord Adebowale | 688 c79-80 (Link to this contribution)
I speak to Amendment No. 5 in my name. The Bill rightly clarifies that dependence on alcohol or drug...
Baroness Barker | 688 c75-6 (Link to this contribution)
As I was getting ready to talk about this amendment, I was taken back many years—more than I care to...
Baroness Murphy | 688 c76-9 (Link to this contribution)
A subtext runs beneath many of the Government’s proposals. I say, ““Mind the gap””. In trying to cha...
Lord Rix | 688 c71-2 (Link to this contribution)
Those were the New Year’s greetings that I expected, whether from the noble Lord, Lord Warner, or fr...
Earl Howe | 688 c72-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 4:
4: Clause 3, page 2, leave out lines 22 and 23 and insert—
““““(3) For the ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c11-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Moved acc...
Lord Adebowale | 688 c65-6 (Link to this contribution)
I shall support the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Rix, by making two points and telling...
Lord Rix | 688 c61-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:
Page 2, leave out lines 10 and 11
The noble Lord said: I must first declar...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 688 c61 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply, but I am going to have to think about it quite carefully to ens...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 688 c67 (Link to this contribution)
I support this amendment. I remind the Committee of the wording of the recommendation from the Joint...
Baroness Murphy | 688 c66-7 (Link to this contribution)
I want briefly to support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Rix. He has said it so eloquently th...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 688 c60 (Link to this contribution)
If the Minister is inviting me to intervene again I certainly will. I hope that the Committee will n...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c60 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I should—
Earl Howe | 688 c56-7 (Link to this contribution)
This is an extremely difficult issue. The Government’s position—if I do not misrepresent them—is tha...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 688 c53-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 2:
2: Clause 2, page 2, line 4, after ““disability”” insert ““or an autistic s...
Lord Addington | 688 c58 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness has brought forward what is, I hope, a probing amendment. The awful point is that...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 688 c57 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness,in moving this amendment, has done so comprehensively, and has given the views of...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 688 c60 (Link to this contribution)
I am puzzled by something that the Minister said about the courts. Is he suggesting that there might...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c58-60 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my noble friend for her Amendment No. 2. Section 1 of the 1983 Act as it stands fir...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c60 (Link to this contribution)
I was seeking to suggest that there may be a gap. If there is an exclusion such as the one suggested...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c50-1 (Link to this contribution)
As the Minister is coming to his summing-up, I thought that this might be the right place to put a q...
Earl Howe | 688 c51-3 (Link to this contribution)
This has been a debate of very high quality, one of the best that I have had the privilege of taking...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c51 (Link to this contribution)
I do not agree with that. I was not arguing against the laudable aims in many of the paragraphs of t...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c45-50 (Link to this contribution)
I thank noble Lords for their warm welcome, which is much appreciated. I pay tribute to my noble fri...
Lord Patel of Blackburn | 688 c45 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make a very short statement. I was not planning to speak to this amendment, although I com...
Baroness Neuberger | 688 c40-5 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, welcome back the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath. He and I, like several others in this...
Bishop of Southwell and Nottingham | 688 c39-40 (Link to this contribution)
We on these Benches support the amendment. I do not want to repeat all the arguments in favour of th...
Lord Soley | 688 c38-9 (Link to this contribution)
I support the proposal of the noble Lord, Lord Warner, that the Government take this away, look at i...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 688 c37-8 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, welcome most warmly the return of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, to the Front Bench. No one is m...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 688 c34-7 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for my absence from the first few minutes of this debate. It may assist the Committee if...
Lord Ramsbotham | 688 c33-4 (Link to this contribution)
In expressing my strong support for this amendment I salute the tone and temper, as well as the quan...
Lord Alderdice | 688 c31-3 (Link to this contribution)
I identify myself with the sincere and widespread welcome to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heat...
Lord Winston | 688 c30-1 (Link to this contribution)
I too offer my hearty congratulations to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, on taking his place back at the ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 688 c30 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may briefly intervene before what I know will be a very important speech by the noble Lord...
Lord Bragg | 688 c25-7 (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendment in the context of a Government who have already done a great deal to allevia...
Lord Adebowale | 688 c22-5 (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendment. What strikes me is that, although the current Mental Health Act was never i...
Lord Warner | 688 c28-30 (Link to this contribution)
I start by wishing my noble friend Lord Hunt well in his new job. I am sorry if my departure has cau...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 688 c27-8 (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendment. I am among those of your Lordships who would like to welcome back the noble...
Baroness Murphy | 688 c18-20 (Link to this contribution)
From these Benches, I welcome the Minister home to the health portfolio. I am sure that I speak in p...
Baroness Barker | 688 c15-8 (Link to this contribution)
I declare an interest as an employee of Age Concern England. I also take the opportunity to welcome ...
Lord Rix | 688 c21-2 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend Lady Murphy mentioned rogues and vagabonds, which reminds me that today is the 30th ...
Earl of Onslow | 688 c20-1 (Link to this contribution)
I do not normally speak on something like this, but I will for just one and a half seconds. When my ...
Earl Howe | 688 c12-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:
1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—
““Guiding Principles: ...
Lord Soley | 688 c88-9 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the root of the concern, but let us touch briefly on the Soviet Union point. When those...
Earl Howe | 688 c89-90 (Link to this contribution)
We have seriously overrun our time, and I am sure that noble Lords will thank me for being brief. Th...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c90 (Link to this contribution)
I think this is an appropriate moment to break. I suggest that Committee stage does not begin again ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 688 c60-1 (Link to this contribution)
I will see whether I can write to the noble Lord with a specific case, but the kind of situation tha...
Baroness Barker | 688 c64-5 (Link to this contribution)
During my time in this Chamber I have learnt one thing—that the noble Lord, Lord Rix, is the worst a...
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