Education and Inspections Bill. Lords Committee stage first day. Clauses 1-3 agreed to, clause 2 as amended. New clauses considered. (Part 1 of 2)
Education and Inspections Bill
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Wednesday, 5 July 2006,
in the House of Lords.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
684 c250-311 
Session
2005-06
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Education and Inspections Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory notes HL Bill 116-EN also published.
Thursday, 25 May 2006
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House of Lords
Thursday, 25 May 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Lucas | 684 c256 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to take this opportunity to explore what the Government currently understand by the wo...
Baroness Warnock | 684 c256 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to support what has just been said and to express my particular support for Amendments Nos. 7...
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Baroness Walmsley | 684 c254-6 (Link to this contribution)
Before I speak to my Amendment No. 7 in this group, perhaps I may make one or two comments about wha...
Lord Rix | 684 c253-4 (Link to this contribution)
I speak to Amendments Nos. 6 and 9, both tabled in my name and in the name of my noble friend Lady D...
Lord Judd | 684 c252-3 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak to Amendment No. 2 standing in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Plant and th...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c250-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:
Before Clause 1, insert the following new clause-
““PRIMARY DUTIES IN RELAT...
Lord Adonis | 684 c250 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Moved acc...
Earl of Listowel | 684 c266 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that helpful and detailed answer. I omitted to ask him whether he will info...
Earl of Listowel | 684 c259-60 (Link to this contribution)
I support Amendment No. 9, tabled by my noble friend Lord Rix. I hope I have understood him correctl...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c259 (Link to this contribution)
I did not mention the word ““academic”” at all. I suggest the noble Baroness reads the amendment aga...
Lord Adonis | 684 c260-6 (Link to this contribution)
These amendments all relate to the fundamental duties on local authorities in Clauses 1 to 3 to prom...
Lord Dearing | 684 c260 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak briefly in support of the two amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Rix. These young peop...
Baroness Darcy de Knayth | 684 c257-8 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to say a brief but warm word of support for Amendments Nos. 6 and 9 in the name of my ...
Baroness David | 684 c257 (Link to this contribution)
I should very much like to support the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Judd. It seems stran...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 684 c258-9 (Link to this contribution)
I follow what the noble Baroness has just said and commend it very much to the House. I am sorry tha...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 684 c258 (Link to this contribution)
I support Amendments Nos. 6 and 9. In listening to the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, I remembered ho...
Lord Northbourne | 684 c256-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am confused and should like some guidance from the Minister. My first point concerns Amendment No....
Lord Boston of Faversham | 684 c270 (Link to this contribution)
In view of the groupings, I must point out to the Committee that if Amendment No. 4 is agreed to I c...
Lord Dearing | 684 c269-70 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:
Page 1, line 4, at beginning insert-
““(1) A local authority which is both ...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c268-9 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response to my amendment and the others in the group.
I reiterate that...
Lord Judd | 684 c267 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my noble friend for the very considerate response to my amendment, and I am encouraged that ...
Lord Adonis | 684 c266-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am not breaching any confidences by saying that tomorrow the Select Committee on Education and Ski...
Lord Adonis | 684 c268 (Link to this contribution)
That is a very wide issue, and I am happy to write to the noble Lord, which may be the best approach...
Lord Lucas | 684 c267-8 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know whether the noble Lord will be able to answer the questions that I raise on the meanin...
Lord Rix | 684 c267 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for seeing me and members of the Special Education Consortium yesterday afterno...
Lord Northbourne | 684 c267 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that the noble Lord mentioned whether he is prepared to give the Committee a sneak pr...
Baroness Warnock | 684 c274 (Link to this contribution)
I support what my noble friends Lord Dearing and Lady Howarth have said, and remind your Lordships h...
Lord Dearing | 684 c274 (Link to this contribution)
May I offer an explanation of my misdemeanour to the noble Baroness? My strong feeling, which is bas...
Lord Adonis | 684 c274-6 (Link to this contribution)
I now realise that I am in the customary position of Ministers speaking from this Dispatch Box of ag...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 684 c271-2 (Link to this contribution)
I rise briefly to support the amendment. In doing so, I reflect on the words of the Minister at the ...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c272-3 (Link to this contribution)
As the right reverend Prelate has just said, we entirely agree that the well-being of children is pa...
Bishop of Southwell and Nottingham | 684 c272 (Link to this contribution)
We on these Benches agree that the well-being of children is and must be paramount. That is already ...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 684 c273 (Link to this contribution)
I was not going to speak at this juncture, but my noble friend has allowed me to speak before him. I...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 684 c274 (Link to this contribution)
Again, very briefly, I support the amendment. We have gone over this point many times, but it was fe...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 684 c274 (Link to this contribution)
In one sentence, I believe that it would strengthen it.
Lord Dearing | 684 c298-9 (Link to this contribution)
I speak to Amendment No. 18. It is a great pleasure to speak after the noble Baroness, Lady Williams...
Lord Gould of Brookwood | 684 c299-300 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great privilege to follow those words from such an expert in this field.
I say first how mu...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 684 c295-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord for his suggestion. I do not have a copy of the 1996 Act to hand and so canno...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 684 c296-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 16:
Page 2, line 14, at end insert ““, and
( ) ensuring that the education pro...
Lord Lucas | 684 c300-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am in serious trouble here because I cannot think of anything that the noble Lord, Lord Gould, sai...
Lord Judd | 684 c301-2 (Link to this contribution)
I warm to the arguments put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Dearing. In my experience, they relate t...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 684 c300 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree that parents want the best school for their child. My point is that the Bill pres...
Lord Gould of Brookwood | 684 c300 (Link to this contribution)
This is a balanced Bill. The key is that the Government in their strategic role for local authoritie...
Lord Skidelsky | 684 c303 (Link to this contribution)
I oppose this amendment for the reasons given by the noble Lord, Lord Lucas: it is unclear what duti...
Lord Lucas | 684 c303 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Judd, could get the LSE to design an A-level economics course which is not as i...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 684 c287 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the noble Baroness will forgive me for intervening, as I am really here as an observer a...
Lord Adonis | 684 c288 (Link to this contribution)
I failed to respond to the noble Lord, Lord Skidelsky, and I am anxious that he does not think it wa...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c288 (Link to this contribution)
We will continue to agree to disagree with the Liberal Democrats. On that basis, I beg leave to with...
Baroness Morgan of Huyton | 684 c291-2 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that we do not accept these amendments. One of the big steps forward in the Bill is the atten...
Earl of Listowel | 684 c292 (Link to this contribution)
It may be helpful for me to comment while we are discussing curriculum diversity. I wonder whether i...
Lord Adonis | 684 c292-5 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I can begin by taking this issue head-on because I think that it will feature more in our di...
Lord Skidelsky | 684 c292 (Link to this contribution)
I am a bit puzzled as to why the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, is so sceptical about choice and divers...
Lord Lucas | 684 c295 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I can persuade the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, and the Minister that the good work that they...
Lord Lucas | 684 c283 (Link to this contribution)
Surely the point is that they have not worked well for many a long year. There is a whole collection...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 684 c283 (Link to this contribution)
I hope we will not accept this amendment. Everyone knows that where we have ended up in the Bill, in...
Earl of Listowel | 684 c282 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the noble Baroness for not being present for much of her moving of this amendment; I ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 684 c282-3 (Link to this contribution)
It will hardly surprise your Lordships that from these Benches we have very little agreement with wh...
Lord Lucas | 684 c281 (Link to this contribution)
I think that I was probably the Back-Bencher to which the noble Baroness referred. I am disappointed...
Lord Skidelsky | 684 c281-2 (Link to this contribution)
I do not quite agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Buscombe, but the duties of LEAs in relation to e...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c286-7 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response to my amendments. I have listened to him with some care, but I...
Lord Adonis | 684 c284-6 (Link to this contribution)
If I may say so, my noble friend Lord Smith has made my speech for me. I welcome the noble Baroness’...
Lord Smith of Leigh | 684 c284 (Link to this contribution)
I must respond to that point. As leader of a Labour metropolitan authority, I hope the noble Barones...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 684 c283-4 (Link to this contribution)
I think a reply to the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, is required. Obviously there are some good schools an...
Lord Adonis | 684 c277 (Link to this contribution)
We are in Committee and so I am happy to respond immediately. I know absolutely what my legal friend...
Baroness Walmsley | 684 c277 (Link to this contribution)
That brings me nicely to my second point. The reason why it might be desirable to do so is to provid...
Lord Dearing | 684 c277-8 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his reply and I am delighted that there is no difference whatever in the Ho...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c278 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 11:
Page 2, line 11, leave out ““powers”” and insert ““functions””
The noble ...
Baroness Walmsley | 684 c277 (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Lord, Lord Dearing, rises to respond, perhaps I may make three points. First, our A...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c281 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the simplest way in which to respond to the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, is to say that our ...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c278 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may respond by saying three cheers to parliamentary counsel. I am very grateful to the nob...
Lord Adonis | 684 c278 (Link to this contribution)
I may be able to deal straightforwardly with the amendment by saying that I propose to accept it. Th...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 684 c281 (Link to this contribution)
I seek clarification from the noble Baroness, Lady Buscombe, who seems to be very busy this evening ...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c278-81 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 12:
Page 2, line 12, at end insert-
““( ) encouraging all schools to become fo...
Baroness Crawley | 684 c311 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House be resumed. In moving this Motion, I suggest that the Committee stage b...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 684 c311 (Link to this contribution)
As it is late, I have not risen to the bait, but I would not have said what I said without having ve...
Lord Adonis | 684 c307-11 (Link to this contribution)
I stand between your Lordships and dinner, which is a slightly perilous position to be in. I have to...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 684 c306-7 (Link to this contribution)
I shall seek to justify Amendment No. 16 as well as Amendment No. 18. In fact, Amendment No. 16 was ...
Lord Dearing | 684 c306 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister replies, perhaps I may respond briefly to some points. To the noble Lord, Lord L...
Earl of Listowel | 684 c305-6 (Link to this contribution)
I know that we want to move on as swiftly as possible, but The Costs of Inclusion has raised again t...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 684 c305 (Link to this contribution)
I did not intend to speak, but we should be careful that we do not patronise people by saying that t...
Lord Smith of Leigh | 684 c304-5 (Link to this contribution)
I want to comment on the remarks made by the noble Lord, Lord Dearing, for two reasons. I think that...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 684 c304 (Link to this contribution)
I was not going to speak in this debate, and I realise that time is pressing on, but I just want to ...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 684 c303-4 (Link to this contribution)
A couple of years ago, as a member of the board of the Audit Commission, I was part of a team that l...
Lord Lucas | 684 c290-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am as depressed as ever by the Liberal Democrat vision of a grey, uniform mediocrity among schools...
Baroness Buscombe | 684 c273 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may respond tothe noble Baroness, Lady Howarth—the joy of Committee is that we can speak a...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 684 c288-90 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 13:
Page 2, line 13, after ““securing”” insert ““where appropriate””
The nobl...
Baroness Walmsley | 684 c270-1 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to support the noble Lord, Lord Dearing, and the noble Lord, Lord Best, who is not in his pla...
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