Adjournment debate on health services in Gloucestershire
Health Services (Gloucestershire)
Adjournment debate on Monday, 12 June 2006,
in the House of Commons,
led by Laurence Robertson.
The answering
member was Caroline Flint.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
447 c585-614 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Caroline Flint | 447 c610-2, (corrigendum) 750 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am not giving way again. I have already given way several times to the hon. Gentleman and resp...
Laurence Robertson | 447 c585-8 (Link to this contribution)
I rather regret the need for this debate, but having said that, I am pleased to have secured it and ...
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Laurence Robertson | 447 c588 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, and I know that he shares my concerns. He makes the point well:...
Martin Horwood | 447 c588 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that there is added nonsense in the concept of repayment in that parti...
David Drew | 447 c588 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman knows my position on this issue, but an answer to his question would greatly help...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c599-602 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to catch your eye in this debate. I congratulate my h...
Martin Horwood | 447 c599;447 c598-9 (Link to this contribution)
I agree entirely, and I am sure that the hon. Gentleman agrees with 13 of his fellow governors of th...
David Drew | 447 c598 (Link to this contribution)
I know something about the issue, which I have debated as a governor of the acute trust. I agreed wi...
David Drew | 447 c603 (Link to this contribution)
I worry about patients with dementia who do not need to be in a clinical setting but who may need to...
David Drew | 447 c590 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Tewkesbury (Mr. Robertson) on initiating the debate. This is the ...
Laurence Robertson | 447 c588-90 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, this becomes more complicated because the three trusts are merging into one. I am not making...
David Drew | 447 c591-3 (Link to this contribution)
I agree and make no apology for concentrating on that point, because that is the most urgent consult...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c590 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises an important point, because there is no reason at all for the dissimilarit...
Laurence Robertson | 447 c595 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes some powerful points. Does he agree that there is a further problem, albeit...
Martin Horwood | 447 c593-5 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Tewkesbury (Mr. Robertson) on securing this important d...
Martin Horwood | 447 c596 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with that. In fact, the atmosphere in which things are being done is so febrile tha...
David Drew | 447 c596 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making the case for Stroud, which is a wonderful midwife-led unit. I am sure t...
Martin Horwood | 447 c597;447 c596-7 (Link to this contribution)
I certainly agree that smaller, friendly units will have a tendency towards fewer interventions. The...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c597 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman is concerned about the risk of travelling from Cheltenham to Gloucester, will ...
Martin Horwood | 447 c597-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am inclined to agree with the hon. Gentleman, as he knows the statistics in his constituency. Howe...
Caroline Flint | 447 c614 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that it is in terms of income and expenditure, but there is also the issue around the o...
Caroline Flint | 447 c612-3 (Link to this contribution)
I think it is a combination of the two. Organisations must ensure that their income and expenditure ...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c612 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the Minister is eliding two requirements. One is the return to financial balance by the...
Caroline Flint | 447 c613 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be happy to follow that up.
David Drew | 447 c613 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister will understand why we feel so much in need of clarification. I have seen the correspon...
Caroline Flint | 447 c613 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Stroud (Mr. Drew) first. Then I will give way to th...
Caroline Flint | 447 c613 (Link to this contribution)
As I have said, the problems in different trusts must first be identified, along with the amounts of...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c608 (Link to this contribution)
We have until 10 o’clock.
Caroline Flint | 447 c608 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make a bit of progress, otherwise I will not even get to the questions that hon. Members h...
Caroline Flint | 447 c609-10 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot be clearer than I already have been. I do understand the hon. Gentleman’s point. However, w...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c608 (Link to this contribution)
We have suffered particularly in Gloucestershire because the Avon, Gloucestershire and Wiltshire str...
Caroline Flint | 447 c608 (Link to this contribution)
That is true, but I have just looked at you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and I think that you might want t...
Martin Horwood | 447 c608-9;447 c608 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister repeatedly talks about the problems of tackling the trusts that are in deficit and thei...
Caroline Flint | 447 c608 (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate the difficulties experienced when areas that are in balance have to help out others. I,...
Caroline Flint | 447 c604 (Link to this contribution)
Because of the curtailment of business earlier, this debate has been rather longer than the normal h...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c603-4 (Link to this contribution)
I agree. The matter concerns patients going to and from hospital not only for treatment, but for con...
Caroline Flint | 447 c607-8 (Link to this contribution)
There are all sorts of reasons why some organisations have got into financial problems, as the hon. ...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c607 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the Minister will answer the core question about the criteria that the PCTs are being se...
Caroline Flint | 447 c607;447 c606-7 (Link to this contribution)
If someone has mental health or learning difficulties, or a long-term condition such as diabetes, or...
David Drew | 447 c606 (Link to this contribution)
I wholeheartedly support what my hon. Friend says. We are examining the detail of the White Paper ““...
Caroline Flint | 447 c606 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that constructive contribution. I have met representatives of the str...
Laurence Robertson | 447 c605-6 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is absolutely right that we need a modern health service; I have said myself that it sh...
Caroline Flint | 447 c604-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that the hon. Gentleman makes that point. Historically, part of the problem is that public...
Martin Horwood | 447 c604 (Link to this contribution)
Given the Minister’s responsibility for public health, is she concerned about the fact that savings ...
Laurence Robertson | 447 c613 (Link to this contribution)
I think the hon. Member for Stroud (Mr. Drew) made the point that I intended to make, but I will say...
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 447 c602-3 (Link to this contribution)
Yes; the situation will be even worse than the one I have described if babies are born in cars, rath...
Martin Horwood | 447 c602 (Link to this contribution)
I did not mean to dismiss the hon. Gentleman’s concern about his constituents’ drive times and accep...
Martin Horwood | 447 c613-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the Minister’s patience in giving way to me again.
Part of the problem may be the...
Martin Horwood | 447 c608 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
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