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444 c181-201

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2005-06

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Home Office

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Identity Cards Bill. Lords non-insistence on certain Lords amendments, disagreement to Commons amendments in lieu and amendments in lieu
Monday, 20 March 2006
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House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Charles Clarke | 444 c197 (Link to this contribution) The fact is that the Government have made a large number of compromises, not least, for example, in ...

Mark Fisher | 444 c196-7 (Link to this contribution) I think that Members on both sides of the House agree that it is not satisfactory continually to be ...

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David Heath | 444 c197 (Link to this contribution) Is it not at least arguable in constitutional terms that the other place is preserving the principle...

Mark Fisher | 444 c197 (Link to this contribution) Not in the past week. The Home Secretary is understandably complaining that the other place and thos...

William Cash | 444 c195-6 (Link to this contribution) : In respect of the process of discussion involving the Lords and the Commons, I have observed that,...

William Cash | 444 c196 (Link to this contribution) I still have grave reservations about the infringement of the principle involved. The Bill will mea...

Nick Clegg | 444 c196 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is mistaken. The amendments are crystal clear, and would defer the power to ident...

Speaker | 444 c197 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.

Mark Fisher | 444 c197 (Link to this contribution) There are all sorts of variations on who is being more flexible. The truth is that there is a differ...

Simon Hughes | 444 c194 (Link to this contribution) : On a ““voluntary”” basis.

George Howarth | 444 c194 (Link to this contribution) When the Conservatives cry ““Freedom!””, it usually means one of two things: either the French are a...

George Howarth | 444 c194 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. and learned Gentleman did wish to make an intervention, I would gladly accept it, but he...

Lord Garnier | 444 c194 (Link to this contribution) No, Madam.

Speaker | 444 c194 (Link to this contribution) Order. Does the hon. and learned Member for Harborough (Mr. Garnier) wish to make an intervention.

George Howarth | 444 c194 (Link to this contribution) Yes, as people renew their passports. As I said when we debated this issue just over a week ago, the...

George Howarth | 444 c195 (Link to this contribution) No; if I conclude remarks, somebody else might be able to speak; indeed, the hon. Gentleman might be...

Robert Smith | 444 c195 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

George Howarth | 444 c194-5 (Link to this contribution) I have read the whole of that section of the manifesto; in fact, I took the trouble to read it befor...

Lord Garnier | 444 c194 (Link to this contribution) It is an old filth’s trick to quote selectively. The right hon. Gentleman has accepted that my quota...

John Bercow | 444 c183 (Link to this contribution) Notwithstanding the advice from my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Folkestone and Hythe...

Charles Clarke | 444 c181-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That this House does not insist on its Amendments 22E and 22F but disagrees with the ...

John Bercow | 444 c185 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to my hon. and learned Friend, who is presenting his case in the characteris...

Lord Garnier | 444 c184-5 (Link to this contribution) I will not do so, save to say that I wholly disagree with the hon. Gentleman. The Home Secretary sa...

John Bercow | 444 c185 (Link to this contribution) That was then—this is now.

William Cash | 444 c185 (Link to this contribution) This is the Tory left.

Charles Clarke | 444 c183 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right to point out that that has been his position and that of a number of Con...

William Cash | 444 c184 (Link to this contribution) Does the Home Secretary agree that it was apparent on Second Reading that the policy advocated by my...

Charles Clarke | 444 c184 (Link to this contribution) I will not go through what the right hon. and learned Member for Folkestone and Hythe might or might...

Lord Garnier | 444 c184 (Link to this contribution) May I begin by apologising on behalf of the shadow Home Secretary, who cannot be here because of a m...

Nick Palmer | 444 c184 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. and learned Gentleman will remember, we both served on that Committee. The Opposition di...

Lord Garnier | 444 c188 (Link to this contribution) Well, there we are. The amendments would delay—properly, because they are in line with the Governme...

Lord Garnier | 444 c187 (Link to this contribution) If I may say so, Madam Deputy Speaker, it is extremely difficult, given that these amendments are ab...

Speaker | 444 c187 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have already indicated to the hon. and learned Gentleman that there has been sufficient dis...

Speaker | 444 c187 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind the hon. and learned Gentleman of the amendments under discussion? Perhaps he wi...

Lord Garnier | 444 c187 (Link to this contribution) Of course, Madam Deputy Speaker, I respect everything that you say and the admonition that you give ...

Andrew Love | 444 c186 (Link to this contribution) Earlier the hon. and learned Gentleman said that he was at one with the hon. Member for Buckingham (...

Lord Garnier | 444 c187 (Link to this contribution) I might do, if the other place in its current constitutional get-up was not a creation of the Govern...

Speaker | 444 c186 (Link to this contribution) Order. May we have one debate across the Floor of the House?

Lord Garnier | 444 c186 (Link to this contribution) Let me assist you, Madam Deputy Speaker, by saying that my hon. Friend the Member for Buckingham (Jo...

Lord Garnier | 444 c190 (Link to this contribution) Further to that point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Had I thought that the hon. Gentleman’s interv...

Speaker | 444 c190 (Link to this contribution) That is a point for debate, rather than a point of order for the Chair.

Speaker | 444 c190 (Link to this contribution) I have already dealt with that point of order. May I remind hon. Members of the assertion in ““Erski...

Lord Garnier | 444 c189 (Link to this contribution) There is no question about it—it will cost a lot of money. The overall costs of the scheme range fro...

Charles Clarke | 444 c189 (Link to this contribution) May I ask the hon. and learned Gentleman to withdraw the word ““gulag””? To suggest that the identif...

Lord Garnier | 444 c189-90 (Link to this contribution) I had not appreciated that the Home Secretary was such a sensitive flower. I used the word ““gulag””...

Nick Palmer | 444 c190 (Link to this contribution) : On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. In his earlier remarks, the hon. and learned Member for...

William Cash | 444 c188 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether my hon. and learned Friend is going to come to this, but does he think that th...

Nick Clegg | 444 c193 (Link to this contribution) Given the almost draconian enormity of the scheme, I should have thought that the Government would l...

Peter Bone | 444 c192-3 (Link to this contribution) The Government’s record on major IT projects is currently pretty dreadful. The longer the scheme is ...

Andrew Love | 444 c193 (Link to this contribution) : Does the hon. Gentleman see any contradiction between his party’s position in respect of a democra...

Gavin Strang | 444 c191 (Link to this contribution) All right hon. and hon. Members on the Labour Benches agree with the general proposition that we exp...

David Winnick | 444 c190-1 (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly try to remember that, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am perhaps not the best person to p...

Nick Clegg | 444 c192 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary has rejected amendments Nos. 22G and 22H from the other place, claiming, if I und...

David Winnick | 444 c191 (Link to this contribution) I understand that, and I hope that my right hon. Friend also understands the principle involved and ...

Simon Hughes | 444 c193 (Link to this contribution) I speak as one who has been implacably opposed to identity cards throughout his political life. Is n...

Nick Clegg | 444 c193-4 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Giving voters the opportunity to make up their own minds at...

Nick Clegg | 444 c193 (Link to this contribution) The other place is entirely within its rights in rejecting an attempt by the Government to impose co...

John Bercow | 444 c189 (Link to this contribution) : Irrespective of the number of people who come forward—in the first instance and for some time—to r...

Speaker | 444 c188 (Link to this contribution) I agree. I think that I have allowed reference to that background. I would now like us to discuss th...

Lord Garnier | 444 c188-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall leave that to the other place. I am arguing in support of the other place’s amendments—22G a...

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Biometrics

Costs

Identity cards

Passports

Legislation

Identity Cards Bill 2005-06

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