Terrorism Bill.Lords reasons for insisting on amendments and disagreeing to Commons amendments, considered. Motion that Commons insists on its disagreement with Lords in their amendments 5,11,31,34 and insists on its Amendment 34B but does not insist on its disagreement with Lords in their amendment 28 and proposes an amendment in lieu. Amended motion disagreed to on division (230 to 298). Main question agreed to on division (296 to 237).
Terrorism Bill
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
443 c1664-88 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Terrorism Bill. Lords reasons for insisting on certain Lords amendments and disagreement to certain commons amendments in lieu
Wednesday, 1 March 2006
Bills
House of Commons
Wednesday, 1 March 2006
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Nick Clegg | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, but I am keen to make progress.
John Bercow | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Nick Clegg | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his observations. They strike at the heart of the imbalance in t...
Evan Harris | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right to say that the measure will lead to self-censorship. Those of us who have d...
Nick Clegg | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
If I may, I shall now address my remarks to the Home Secretary, who referred to the Opposition parti...
Graham Stuart | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
John Bercow | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful to the hon. Gentleman, in the circumstances, for his generosity. He will be ...
Charles Clarke | 443 c1674-5 (Link to this contribution)
First, the hon. Gentleman should think carefully before describing the United Nations Security Counc...
Nick Clegg | 443 c1675 (Link to this contribution)
With the greatest respect to the Home Secretary, his reaction to our sincere and, as it happens, rat...
David Howarth | 443 c1675 (Link to this contribution)
Surely the Home Secretary’s point does not stand up, given that the word ““glorification”” appears n...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1670-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman may be right—there could be more such celebrations. In my part of London, celebra...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1670 (Link to this contribution)
And in north London.
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1671 (Link to this contribution)
The Home Secretary can read what my noble Friend Lord Kingsland said. He took the view that the Gove...
Charles Clarke | 443 c1671 (Link to this contribution)
What was the position of Opposition Front Benchers in the Lords in the debate? What were the reasons...
Jim Cousins | 443 c1671 (Link to this contribution)
I am following the hon. Gentleman’s arguments closely. What comfort does he draw from the clear stat...
David TC Davies | 443 c1673 (Link to this contribution)
Surely the hon. Gentleman agrees that the enormous delay in the effecting of those arrests and the v...
Nick Clegg | 443 c1672-3 (Link to this contribution)
In this debate, as in the earlier one on the Identity Cards Bill, the Government have revealed a cur...
Julian Lewis | 443 c1673 (Link to this contribution)
: Is it not bizarre that while the Home Secretary seems to think that the exclusion of the word ““gl...
Nick Clegg | 443 c1673 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point about the curious delay in the action taken by the police in ...
Nick Clegg | 443 c1673 (Link to this contribution)
That is an excellent point. The heavy-handed indifference to the effects on our culture of freedom o...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1679 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making an important point. As he is showing, one of the things that the Home Secre...
William Cash | 443 c1678-9 (Link to this contribution)
I think not, and that is not because I suspect that my hon. Friend will raise a point that I had not...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1678 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
William Cash | 443 c1678 (Link to this contribution)
I have been listening to the debate for some time, and if there has been any serious examination of ...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1678 (Link to this contribution)
I can but agree with the hon. Gentleman. If the wording is vague and too broad, we will end up with ...
Evan Harris | 443 c1678 (Link to this contribution)
In partial, but only partial, defence of the Government’s intention, it is fair to point out that wh...
John Bercow | 443 c1680 (Link to this contribution)
Nor is the list as narrow as some might suppose. Would my hon. Friend not accept that it is not simp...
David TC Davies | 443 c1680 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an important point and he is renowned for his interest in human rights. But I t...
William Cash | 443 c1679-80 (Link to this contribution)
I could not agree more with my hon. Friend, and I go further and say that the second definition that...
David TC Davies | 443 c1680 (Link to this contribution)
I shall try to be briefer than some of the speakers this afternoon, but we should think carefully be...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1676 (Link to this contribution)
No. I always want to be kind to the Government. I am sure that they would not want to promote any su...
Graham Stuart | 443 c1676 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the House might be being too kind to the Government by assuming t...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1677 (Link to this contribution)
: Absolutely. The point is that this creates an atmosphere that becomes perverse and dangerous. As h...
Jim Cousins | 443 c1676-7 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend not see that the problem with which the House is now grappling is not that there...
Nick Clegg | 443 c1675 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. I think that it was addressed to the Home Secretary, and I ...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1676 (Link to this contribution)
I always read Yeats’ great poetry to myself, quietly at home, and never in public. However, I take t...
Mike Weir | 443 c1675-6 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that celebrations of certain parts of Irish history could include read...
David Heath | 443 c1677 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman. He made the point that the person who placed the bomb that affected...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1677 (Link to this contribution)
I can only agree with the hon. Gentleman. It is clear that placing the bombs on the bus and the trai...
Mark Fisher | 443 c1677 (Link to this contribution)
To pursue the intervention by the hon. Member for Somerton and Frome (Mr. Heath), does my hon. Frien...
Speaker | 443 c1664 (Link to this contribution)
With this we will consider the following: leave out from ““following”” to the end and insert in lieu...
Charles Clarke | 443 c1666-7 (Link to this contribution)
No, not at the moment.
The reason why the Government believe that we need to deal with glorificatio...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1667 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
Charles Clarke | 443 c1666 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that explanation. Trying to help the Prime Minister’s ego is a new task for Opposi...
William Cash | 443 c1666 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Home Secretary give way?
Charles Clarke | 443 c1664-5 (Link to this contribution)
The effect of my motion is simple. It effectively reinstates the wording which this House has previo...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1665 (Link to this contribution)
Instead of using the word ““describe”” our amendment uses the phrase ““referring to terrorism””. Can...
Charles Clarke | 443 c1665 (Link to this contribution)
I will, but I warn the hon. Gentleman that I will not give way to him again in this speech because h...
Charles Clarke | 443 c1665 (Link to this contribution)
The point that I was making is that the amendment seeks to provide an exhaustive description, which,...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1665 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Home Secretary give way?
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1669-70 (Link to this contribution)
If nobody knows who is holding up the placard because that person is wearing a dish dash in such a w...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1670 (Link to this contribution)
I have examined the amendments that the hon. Gentleman tabled. Will he assure us that, if they were ...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1670 (Link to this contribution)
I believe that they will be a great improvement because they focus on what Parliament wants to achie...
Charles Clarke | 443 c1667 (Link to this contribution)
No, I will not give way.
That is a very important safeguard and gives the lie to some of the fancif...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1667-8 (Link to this contribution)
: I rise to respond to the Home Secretary and to speak to amendments (b) and (a) to his amendment in...
Julian Lewis | 443 c1668 (Link to this contribution)
Surely the Home Secretary’s claim that judges will take it as a signal if this is cut out has no mer...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1668-9 (Link to this contribution)
There is no doubt that in many respects the Bill is a belt and braces job. As we pointed out to the ...
Tobias Ellwood | 443 c1669 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend know whether, following the Danish embassy demonstrations, the police have come ...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1669 (Link to this contribution)
The police certainly do not need additional powers to deal with a demonstration outside the Danish e...
Andy Burnham | 443 c1669 (Link to this contribution)
ID cards might have been quite useful.
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1665-6 (Link to this contribution)
On the whole, I am genuinely trying to see whether I can reach a consensus with the Home Secretary. ...
Nick Clegg | 443 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, and the grotesque effect of poorly drafted legislation that the hon. Gentleman describes is ...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1678 (Link to this contribution)
There is a feeling in Government—it is the same in all Governments—that when something awful happens...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c1671-2 (Link to this contribution)
A pretty limited amount. The hon. Gentleman will be aware that the Government have said that at some...
Jeremy Corbyn | 443 c1675 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be brief, for obvious reasons. I want the Lords to continue to oppose the inclusion of the w...
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