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Government of Wales Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 28 February 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Nick Ainger. The answering member was Cheryl Gillan.
Government of Wales Bill. Report stage second day. Amendments debated and withdrawn. Other amendments debated and added to the Bill. New Clauses 2 and 11 debated and negatived on division. New Clause 12 debated and added to the Bill. Third reading debate agreed to on division (324 to 143) and Bill passed.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
443 c133-230 
Session
2005-06
Department
Wales Office
Legislative stage
Third reading and Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Government of Wales Bill. As amended in Committee
Monday, 30 January 2006
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
David Jones | 443 c168 (Link to this contribution) Is not the hon. Gentleman falling into the trap of thinking that each Order in Council is a one-off?...
Ian Lucas | 443 c168 (Link to this contribution) The Minister will correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that the preliminary draft measu...

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Dominic Grieve | 443 c168 (Link to this contribution) I certainly do not suggest that the problems date only from 1997—some of them predate 1997. I want t...
Ian Lucas | 443 c167-8 (Link to this contribution) What we have just heard is a gross misrepresentation of the system that is proposed and betrays a pr...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c166-7 (Link to this contribution) It would be and, from a constitutional point of view, part 4 would be a much better option than part...
David Jones | 443 c166 (Link to this contribution) : If the Government were to be minded to offer such a referendum, would it not be just as easy for t...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c166 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a good point. To return to the point made by my hon. Friend the Member fo...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c166 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 5 defines the powers that could be given to the Welsh Assembly under part 3 or part 4. I do...
Lembit Opik | 443 c165 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to understand the Conservatives’ position on this matter, because that would help us to ...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c164-5 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely. This is a creeping process, which has probably been going on for some time. This P...
Daniel Kawczynski | 443 c165 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the Bill would make it easier for the Government to impose regional g...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c165 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that the only confusion is in the hon. Gentleman’s mind. The Conservative party’s positi...
Adam Price | 443 c164 (Link to this contribution) Does the shadow Attorney-General see any contradiction between his proposal to delete part 1 of sche...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c163-4 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend; that is the matter that was of such concern to us in Committee. W...
Lord Deben | 443 c164 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept the fact that I believe in further devolution, and that, as we have taken...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c164 (Link to this contribution) Not at all; this highlights the nub of the issue. It is possible to have a perfectly reasoned debate...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c165 (Link to this contribution) It is true that the people of Wales will have no referendum on the part 3 proposals. My hon. Friend ...
Adam Price | 443 c165-6 (Link to this contribution) I wish to return to the internal problems in the Conservative party. If the Order in Council procedu...
David TC Davies | 443 c138-9 (Link to this contribution) I should like to speak in support of the amendment. As a Member of the Welsh Assembly, I was quite p...
Lembit Opik | 443 c139 (Link to this contribution) : The problem here is not the concept of Deputy Ministers or the number of them that a First Ministe...
Hywel Williams | 443 c138 (Link to this contribution) : We welcome the definition for Deputy Ministers—it is a fair step forward. I agree with the hon. Me...
David TC Davies | 443 c139 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to say this to the hon. Gentleman in public, but he is simply not correct. The role that ...
Speaker | 443 c139 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps this is the appropriate moment to remind the House that we are talking about Minister...
David TC Davies | 443 c139 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way so soon. Surely he can see that the job of runnin...
Lembit Opik | 443 c140 (Link to this contribution) In proportional terms it is not very different from what happens here in Westminster, so I am not as...
Lembit Opik | 443 c139-40 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I set that hare running myself. If I may, I shall just give the hon....
David Jones | 443 c140 (Link to this contribution) Is there not more to it than that? Deputy Ministers will be remunerated. Does the hon. Gentleman not...
Nick Ainger | 443 c140 (Link to this contribution) I am conscious of your suggestion that we concentrate on the amendments, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and I w...
Nick Ainger | 443 c140 (Link to this contribution) May I first answer the question raised by the hon. Member for Montgomeryshire about the role of Depu...
Nick Ainger | 443 c141 (Link to this contribution) Not necessarily. As I have said, if the Assembly sat for four days a week rather than two, that woul...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c141 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister says, discussions have turned on the proposal for the Assembly to sit for four days ...
Nick Ainger | 443 c141 (Link to this contribution) Fortunately, that issue is way above my pay grade; it is clearly one for the Senior Salaries Review ...
David TC Davies | 443 c141 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is talking a lot of sense in proposing to increase the time that the Assembly sits from...
Nick Ainger | 443 c141 (Link to this contribution) As I said, this issue is way above my pay grade and I am not going to get involved in any discussion...
David Jones | 443 c141 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister really think it right that, on that basis, 40 per cent. of the Labour party should...
Nick Ainger | 443 c135 (Link to this contribution) I have carefully considered the arguments advanced by the hon. Member for Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale ...
Lembit Opik | 443 c134 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made a brilliant and insightful point, which doubtless makes the Minister’s skin ...
Adam Price | 443 c134-5 (Link to this contribution) This is a modest demand, and a perfect opportunity for the Government to concede one amendment to th...
Lembit Opik | 443 c134 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, the hon. Member for Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale (David Mundell) has made a cohe...
Roger Williams | 443 c134 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will agree that it is important that the people of Wales should be able to distinguis...
Speaker | 443 c133 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment No. 12, in page 27, line 37, leave out ‘Assembl...
David Mundell | 443 c133 (Link to this contribution) The purpose of the amendments is to ensure a consistent approach to the devolved Administrations of ...
David Mundell | 443 c133 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 11, in page 27, line 32, leave out ‘Assembly Government’ and insert ‘Exe...
Hywel Williams | 443 c135 (Link to this contribution) May I ask a common-sense question? Does not the Minister find the acronym WAG a little silly?
Nick Ainger | 443 c135 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not, and nobody burst out laughing when the hon. Gentleman mentioned it. Hon. Members refe...
David Mundell | 443 c136 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman. If the Minister had been willing to accept the amendment, common se...
David Mundell | 443 c136 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 10, in page 30, line 25, leave out clause 51.
Speaker | 443 c136 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss new clause 6—Limit on number of Ministers (No. 2)— '(1)...
David Mundell | 443 c136-8 (Link to this contribution) The amendment and the new clause are designed to engender a debate about the appropriate number of M...
David Mundell | 443 c135-6 (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed by the Minister’s response to a reasonable suggestion. Earlier in our consideratio...
Ian Lucas | 443 c136 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman explain why the Labour Welsh Assembly Government introduced the distinction ...
David Mundell | 443 c136 (Link to this contribution) The Labour Welsh Assembly Government had to take a degree of responsibility for their actions. Both ...
Lembit Opik | 443 c136 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman was right to table the amendment. The point made by the hon. Member for Wrexham (...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c151 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. The amendments do nothing but set fairly broad parameters. By a...
Lembit Opik | 443 c151 (Link to this contribution) I sense that the hon. Lady may wish to divide the House so, for the record, I wish to say that, for ...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c149 (Link to this contribution) The Minister appears to have made two conflicting statements. I think that I am correct in saying th...
Nick Ainger | 443 c149 (Link to this contribution) The well-being power is there to assist the people of Wales. Clause 60(1) sets out the objects to wh...
David Jones | 443 c149 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his generosity in giving way. Will he turn his mind to clause 60(4...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c150-1 (Link to this contribution) I understand why, from time to time, Ministers—whether in Westminster or in the Assembly—need to exe...
Nick Ainger | 443 c150 (Link to this contribution) I think that I touched on that. The Counsel General would be in a position to expend moneys to ensur...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c150 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister deal with my question about the Counsel General, please?
Nick Ainger | 443 c149-50 (Link to this contribution) To clarify the point, I am certainly not suggesting that a Minister would be able suddenly to take o...
Mark Williams | 443 c158-9 (Link to this contribution) We support the amendment and, in particular, the new clause. The amendment touches a nerve among man...
Jessica Morden | 443 c158 (Link to this contribution) In speaking to the amendment and the new clause, I support the comments of my hon. Friend the Member...
Adam Price | 443 c157-8 (Link to this contribution) : I am happy to support the amendment moved by the hon. Member for Ogmore (Huw Irranca-Davies). It w...
Lembit Opik | 443 c151-2;443 c152 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Lady says, she is being generous and, indeed, modest. I think that she is saying that am...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c156 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 62, in page 41, line 4, leave out clause 75.
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c152 (Link to this contribution) I merely wish to press amendments Nos. 64 and 66—I do not wish to press the remaining amendments any...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c156-7 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to move the amendment and support the new clause because their purpose is to recognise ...
Speaker | 443 c156 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss new clause 12—Business scheme— '(1) The Welsh Ministers...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c157 (Link to this contribution) I am especially pleased that business interests are recognised in the amendments as being those not ...
Speaker | 443 c157 (Link to this contribution) Order. Will hon. Members who are leaving the Chamber or holding conversations in the Chamber please ...
Nick Ainger | 443 c147 (Link to this contribution) First, there is a limit in that every bit of expenditure will be subject to the Audit Committee. The...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c147 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has given some examples, but what limits will be placed on those powers?
Nick Ainger | 443 c146-7 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can help the hon. Lady. I will try to respond to all the points that she made, but first I...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c144-6 (Link to this contribution) I thought that the hon. Gentleman said that I was rambling. My lip-reading skills are obviously not ...
Kevin Brennan | 443 c144 (Link to this contribution) I said, ““It’s the Ram doctrine.””
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c143 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my voice will be more robust today than yesterday, and that the House will bear with me ...
Speaker | 443 c143 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 64, in page 35, line 28, af...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c143 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 63, in page 35, line 27, leave out clause 60.
David Mundell | 443 c142 (Link to this contribution) As I made clear to the hon. Member for Caernarfon (Hywel Williams) during my initial remarks, our pr...
Nick Ainger | 443 c141-2 (Link to this contribution) The issue is not what percentage of the governing party is in government, but what percentage of the...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c148 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister tell me whether the provisions were included in the original Government of Wales A...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c148-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way again; at least we are having a dialogue on the matter....
David Jones | 443 c147 (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend the Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs. Gillan) was expressing the con...
Nick Ainger | 443 c148 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if the hon. Gentleman does not feel that I have responded to him. All that we are trying ...
David Jones | 443 c148 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister recognise that the clause could give Assembly Ministers powers to exceed the power...
Nick Ainger | 443 c147 (Link to this contribution) I shall come to the limits of the word ““anything””, but I was responding to the question that the h...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c159-60 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention. I realise that the proposal is supported by the CBI and the TUC...
Nick Ainger | 443 c160 (Link to this contribution) Surprise, surprise, Madam Deputy Speaker—we accept and welcome the amendment and the new clause, and...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c160 (Link to this contribution) Do not such powers already exist under clauses 60 and 70? Welsh Ministers could use the powers grant...
Nick Ainger | 443 c160 (Link to this contribution) The point is that under the terms of clauses 60 and 70, Ministers would choose whether to take such ...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c159 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Minister will tell us whether what is proposed in new clause 12 could be dealt with ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c159 (Link to this contribution) There would undoubtedly be consultation with various organisations, large and small. The hon. Lady w...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c159 (Link to this contribution) That answers one of my questions. New clause 12(7) states that"““within the period of two years beg...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c159 (Link to this contribution) As I have said, the TUC and the CBI support the amendment and the new clause, but that proposal foll...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c160 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way again. He says that the cost will be minimal and I pres...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c160-1 (Link to this contribution) I am very pleased to see not only cross-party support for the new clause but support from throughout...
Nick Ainger | 443 c160 (Link to this contribution) I am assured that the costs are minimal as most of this work is already being done by Assembly offic...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c163 (Link to this contribution) It certainly clarifies the matter up to a point, and it sounds even worse than I originally thought....
Lord Deben | 443 c163 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that what is being removed from Parliament are precisely the rights that w...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c162 (Link to this contribution) The Minister shakes his head. Perhaps I have chosen my words badly, but in Committee we established ...
Nick Ainger | 443 c162-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall try to help the hon. Gentleman with how the system will work. The Welsh Assembly will propos...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c162 (Link to this contribution) Clauses 92 to 101 make up part 3 of the Bill, which deals with Assembly measures. We debated these p...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c161 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 4, in page 50, line 7, leave out clauses 92 to 101.
Speaker | 443 c161-2 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 5, in page 50, line 17 [Cla...
David TC Davies | 443 c219-20 (Link to this contribution) We will vote against the Bill tonight not because we do not want devolution to work but because we w...
Speaker | 443 c219 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman has been asked once to confine his remarks to the content of the Bill. I h...
David TC Davies | 443 c219 (Link to this contribution) Very well, Madam Deputy Speaker, but one of the major effects of the Bill is the change in the votin...
Speaker | 443 c219 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind the hon. Gentleman of what I have said to other hon. Members? We really must con...
Adam Price | 443 c222 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Llanelli (Nia Griffith) is of course right—the Charter Secretary of State for Wa...
Nia Griffith | 443 c221-2 (Link to this contribution) It gives me great pleasure to speak on Third Reading. I know that my predecessor James Griffiths, th...
Stephen Crabb | 443 c221 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we are all looking forward to the end of this long groundhog day, so I shall be brief...
Albert Owen | 443 c220-1 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Monmouth (David T.C. Davies), who leads so gra...
Adam Price | 443 c222-4 (Link to this contribution) Time is short, so if the hon. Lady will forgive me I will not give way. This Bill, like so many hom...
Speaker | 443 c218 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps I can take some of the heat out of the debate and remind the hon. Gentleman again tha...
Lembit Opik | 443 c217-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady accuses me of hypocrisy. How ironic that she does that after pretending to hope that t...
Hywel Francis | 443 c218 (Link to this contribution) I want to place on record my personal support for the Bill and that of the Welsh Affairs Committee, ...
Lembit Opik | 443 c218 (Link to this contribution) In his heart, the Secretary of State is a Liberal, and hope springs eternal. Although we hoped for ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c218 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept that, when one is attacked on the one hand for not going far enough and o...
Hywel Francis | 443 c218-9 (Link to this contribution) I think that I understand my hon. Friend and I suppose that I agree. It is important to recognise a...
David TC Davies | 443 c219 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State began his speech with the bizarre accusation that the Conservative party is t...
David Jones | 443 c224 (Link to this contribution) : I shall be brief, as I know that time is short. The Bill is a huge missed opportunity. The Secreta...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c226 (Link to this contribution) I reiterate that it is with heavy hearts that we will vote against the Bill. We are not prepared to ...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c224-6 (Link to this contribution) : I am pleased to speak towards the end of the very long process of our dealings with the Bill. I sp...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 443 c226-7 (Link to this contribution) I have been called worse things in my time and probably will be again. However, whether the Bill is ...
Lord Deben | 443 c170-1 (Link to this contribution) It is no good saying that I have used an unsuitable word. I mean it in the precise terms of people w...
Lord Deben | 443 c170 (Link to this contribution) Subtlety never was a great Liberal virtue, but let me try to explain what is a very clear subtlety i...
Lord Deben | 443 c169-70 (Link to this contribution) It would be foolish to ignore the background to this part of the Bill. Clearly, some Government Memb...
Lembit Opik | 443 c170 (Link to this contribution) Although the right hon. Gentleman may indeed be Suffolk, Coastal’s first Welsh nationalist, can he n...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c168-9 (Link to this contribution) There is a slight difference between transferring further functions to the Assembly to operate under...
Ian Lucas | 443 c169 (Link to this contribution) Of course there will be a change in the process, but as I pointed out earlier the reason for it is t...
David Jones | 443 c168 (Link to this contribution) Precisely, but the hon. Member for Wrexham (Ian Lucas) seems to think that pre-legislative scrutiny ...
Speaker | 443 c172 (Link to this contribution) Order. What is more important in this matter is whether the occupant of the Chair likes it, and we a...
Lord Deben | 443 c172-5 (Link to this contribution) I will certainly do that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, although I had hoped to give you a moment of amusement...
Jenny Willott | 443 c175 (Link to this contribution) I would like to speak to amendments Nos. 59 to 61. It seems a long time since we started debating th...
Lord Deben | 443 c171 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should listen to the end of my sentence. If that were true, it is also true that ...
David TC Davies | 443 c171 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that both the Labour party and the Conservative party in government ...
Lord Deben | 443 c171-2 (Link to this contribution) The great point that my hon. Friend makes is clear: Liberals in power prefer to keep hold of that po...
Lembit Opik | 443 c171 (Link to this contribution) Lembit I. Aside from the somewhat distasteful language that the right hon. Gentleman has uncharacter...
David Jones | 443 c176 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady talks in terms of delay, but could not delay be avoided altogether if we deleted part ...
Jenny Willott | 443 c176 (Link to this contribution) I point out that the hon. Gentleman’s own party does not necessarily agree with that. We have made o...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c176 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady give way again?
Jenny Willott | 443 c176 (Link to this contribution) I would rather not. This debate has gone on for a long time and it is important that we move on, or ...
David Jones | 443 c176-8 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support wholeheartedly the amendment that stands in the name of my hon. Friend the Member ...
Nick Ainger | 443 c178 (Link to this contribution) Well, we have gone over the same old ground as we did in Committee. Let me put on the record what is...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c175-6 (Link to this contribution) I would be grateful if, in the course of her remarks, the hon. Lady spoke to amendment No. 59 in her...
Jenny Willott | 443 c176 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman is aware, the Liberal Democrats believe in a full Welsh Parliament, so ideally...
Lembit Opik | 443 c175 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will, like me, expect the right hon. Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gummer) to vote...
Jenny Willott | 443 c175 (Link to this contribution) Not surprisingly, I agree with my hon. Friend.
Nick Ainger | 443 c179-80 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to remember how many referendums were held in 18 years of Tory rule. The answer is: not ...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c180 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that it is essential that part 3 should be in place, yet only a few moments ago, h...
Nick Ainger | 443 c180-1 (Link to this contribution) Because they voted for a Labour Government and a Labour manifesto. Amendment No. 5, which was table...
Dominic Grieve | 443 c181-2 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that the Minister and I agree on one thing—amendment No. 59 encapsulates the criticism tha...
David Mundell | 443 c192 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Dominic Grieve | 443 c178 (Link to this contribution) The Minister repeats what he said on Second Reading, that there is a legislative logjam, but we esta...
Nick Ainger | 443 c178 (Link to this contribution) It is not surprising that I repeat what I said verbatim: the hon. Gentleman made the same points on ...
David Jones | 443 c178 (Link to this contribution) The Minister suggests that there would be a delay of years, but why should there be any delay at all...
Nick Ainger | 443 c178-9 (Link to this contribution) As we have debated on many occasions and as my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State has explaine...
David TC Davies | 443 c179 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that the Government would not hold a referendum because there is no guarantee that...
David Mundell | 443 c194-5 (Link to this contribution) As we anticipated, the Minister’s response contained no surprises. I hope that he is correct about t...
Nick Ainger | 443 c194 (Link to this contribution) The practical effect of new clause 2 would be to ensure that a referendum under the terms of the Bil...
David Mundell | 443 c193-4 (Link to this contribution) Unless I misunderstand the hon. Gentleman, his intervention is an argument for the new clause, which...
Mark Tami | 443 c193 (Link to this contribution) If one provides for a specified period—whether five or 10 years—does not the hon. Gentleman believe ...
David Mundell | 443 c192-3 (Link to this contribution) During our debates on the preceding amendments, it was said that, if a referendum were held, it woul...
Speaker | 443 c192 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss new clause 13—Interval between referendums—"‘No Order in ...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c199-200 (Link to this contribution) I was not going to speak to this new clause—until I heard what the hon. Member for Montgomeryshire (...
Lembit Opik | 443 c199 (Link to this contribution) We are not seeking to gerrymander the formula in favour of Wales; rather we are trying to ensure tha...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c199 (Link to this contribution) The other day, the First Minister said that Wales has 5 per cent. of the UK’s population and makes 4...
Lembit Opik | 443 c198-9 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. I am grateful to the hon. Member for Chesham ...
Adam Price | 443 c201 (Link to this contribution) I accept that and look forward to the Conservative party devoting one of its Opposition days to a ca...
Lembit Opik | 443 c203 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs. Gillan) said that the funding calculation was too imp...
Kevin Brennan | 443 c201-3 (Link to this contribution) : The problem with new clause 11 is that it would set up a panel of so-called experts to make recomm...
David Heath | 443 c200 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the hon. Lady for giving way. She is obviously taking a view in her capacity a...
Adam Price | 443 c200-1 (Link to this contribution) : I am disappointed to hear the hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs. Gillan)—who has been grac...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c200 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is perhaps in danger of being ruled out of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. [Interrup...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c209-13 (Link to this contribution) I offer the Secretary of State and all Welsh Members my best wishes for St. David’s day tomorrow. I ...
Lord Hain | 443 c206-9 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. If I may say so, Madam Deputy Speaker, to ...
Martyn Jones | 443 c213 (Link to this contribution) I did not take part in Committee, for the very good reason that I believed that the Government had a...
Martyn Jones | 443 c213 (Link to this contribution) I do not regard that as a problem at all. I believe that the referendum could offer other options, b...
David Jones | 443 c213 (Link to this contribution) How does the hon. Gentleman square his last statement with the fact that in the Welsh Affairs Commit...
Martyn Jones | 443 c213 (Link to this contribution) I am surprised, and it is a shame. We should vote collectively for a very good Bill which, I hope, w...
David Jones | 443 c214 (Link to this contribution) I cannot follow the logic of that: when we were in opposition, we did not put our principles first, ...
David TC Davies | 443 c214 (Link to this contribution) The comment that we should all vote for the Bill because the hon. Gentleman happens to think it is a...
David Jones | 443 c213-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Monmouth (David T.C. Davies) may wish to raise other desirable options. I would ...
Lembit Opik | 443 c214-5 (Link to this contribution) We have heard some interesting debates and exchanges, not least the rather curious claim from the ho...
Speaker | 443 c215 (Link to this contribution) Order. I would rather hear about the content of the Bill.
David TC Davies | 443 c215 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman were to shorten his speech, he would get to hear some more comments. I am sure...
Speaker | 443 c215 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that we should discuss the content of the Bill.
Lembit Opik | 443 c215 (Link to this contribution) I would be happy to take lessons from Conservative Members, if the right hon. Member for Suffolk, Co...
Speaker | 443 c217 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind the hon. Gentleman once again that a Third Reading debate concerns the contents ...
Lembit Opik | 443 c215-7 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker. If the right hon. Member for Suffolk, Coastal were available for ...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c217 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to the hon. Gentleman very carefully. He has read out a catalogue of aspects of the B...
Lembit Opik | 443 c217 (Link to this contribution) All right. Nevertheless, Madam Deputy Speaker, we did discuss those issues, and in every single case...
Lembit Opik | 443 c217 (Link to this contribution) Despite its imperfections, of which there are many, the Bill is marginally better than the existing ...
Nick Ainger | 443 c148 (Link to this contribution) The provisions were not in exactly this form, but we are putting them in this form because we are tr...
Nick Ainger | 443 c149 (Link to this contribution) No, to return to the point that I made earlier, section 40 of the Government of Wales Act 1998 alrea...
Lembit Opik | 443 c218 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham is now blackmailing me from a sedentary position and it has...
Lord Deben | 443 c166 (Link to this contribution) If I sat in the Welsh Assembly, I would want the schedule to include several powers that it does not...
Ian Lucas | 443 c168 (Link to this contribution) Since the Government of Wales Act 1998, devolution of further powers has occurred regularly, as anyo...
Lembit Opik | 443 c139 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman forgets that, aside from doing the work of three Ministers in the Wales Office, t...
Nick Ainger | 443 c147-8 (Link to this contribution) I used that phrase because the Minister for Economic Development and Transport might, for example, w...
Cheryl Gillan | 443 c201 (Link to this contribution) This matter is far too important to be discussed in the dying minutes of consideration on Report. It...
Lembit Opik | 443 c140-1 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs. Gillan), who is still waiting to inter...
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