Parliamentary search - London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games Bill

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678 c65-118GC

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2005-06

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Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Committee of the Whole House (HL)

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House of Lords Grand Committee

London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games Bill. Brought from Commons . Explanatory Notes HL Bill 52-EN also published .(Bill previously known as London Olympics Bill)
Wednesday, 7 December 2005
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c65GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 1, line 8, leave out ““, in particular””" The noble Baroness said: My n...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c65-6GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness indicated that this was a difficult and contentious amendment. All I can say is t...

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Lord Glentoran | 678 c83-4GC (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the thrust of the amendments of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, with the mino...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c112-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23:"Page 3, line 30, leave out ““section”” and insert ““Act””" The noble Barone...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c108-11GC (Link to this contribution) I want to make it clear that within the framework of the Bill, the Mayor retains that power. In othe...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c104-5GC (Link to this contribution) I have Amendments Nos. 77, 78 and 80 in this group. This group is all about relationships, and I hav...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c103GC (Link to this contribution) I am not at all easy about the relationship in various parts of the Bill between the Mayor and the S...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c101-2GC (Link to this contribution) I was just dwelling on the joys of discussing rail franchises with the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, no...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c93-5GC (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether what the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran, is doing is finding a delicate way of getting ...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c90GC (Link to this contribution) It is unbelievable that a planning application for the major arena, the great central stadium which ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c90GC (Link to this contribution) We are all agreed on the objectives. The noble Baroness indicated, and the noble Lord supports, that...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c89-90GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11:"Page 34, line 20, leave out ““is involved”” and insert ““has an interest””" ...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c89GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, as I fear I was going to make not nearly so well informed points as...

Lord Clement-Jones | 678 c91GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Borrie, has put his finger on the point here. Much of the deliberation of the O...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c90-1GC (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Lord says. We do not want to arrive at that situation, which would be absurd. ...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c85GC (Link to this contribution) This body will be auditable. It will report to Parliament. Most importantly, it will be accountable ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c84-5GC (Link to this contribution) I enjoyed the degree of detail, particularly the signing of the railway chit. I am delighted that Me...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c87GC (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister pick up the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran, about the National Audit ...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c112GC (Link to this contribution) I wondered whether the Minister would respond to that. It is not my understanding of the situation a...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c111-2GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his explanation. This is a complex area and he has unquestionably ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c107-8GC (Link to this contribution) I understand that and I was responding partly to the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith,...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c103GC (Link to this contribution) It is grouped with the amendment that we are discussing.

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c102GC (Link to this contribution) This is a large group of amendments and only two have been spoken to. No wonder we are confused. The...

Lord Bradshaw | 678 c102GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for his reply. I understand that the tenders for services are not the respons...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c95-7GC (Link to this contribution) Far be it for me to suggest that any political points have been made over a cap on council tax. I re...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c97-8GC (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the Minister can distinguish those Londoners among those sitting in this room ...

Lord Bradshaw | 678 c99GC (Link to this contribution) I speak to Amendment No. 51. In doing so I want to pass on the apologies of the noble Lord, Lord Ber...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c93GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 12:"Page 35, line 14, leave out ““may”” and insert ““shall””" The noble Lord sa...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c92GC (Link to this contribution) Are we saying that an urban regeneration company is its own planning authority and is not in fact su...

Lord Clement-Jones | 678 c92GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Baroness could elucidate how this operates in practice. It is all very well to say...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c92-3GC (Link to this contribution) So am I. However, I am grateful to my noble friend for her helpful illustration. I am not speaking o...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c69-72GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness has produced an amendment that goes to the heart of the important structures for ...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c72-3GC (Link to this contribution) I am slightly surprised that the chairman of the ODA will be ““non-executive””. In today’s modern wo...

Lord Clement-Jones | 678 c73GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may press the Minister on this. The logic of what he says is that the Secretary of State t...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c81GC (Link to this contribution) Of course the ODA is not a planning authority in the same way that local authorities are. I was seek...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c77-80GC (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to respond to the noble Lord, Lord Addington. As he said, we have often discussed t...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c81-2GC (Link to this contribution) I may need to write to the noble Lord about that degree of detail. In broad terms, I emphasise that ...

Lord Borrie | 678 c67GC (Link to this contribution) That seems extremely reasonable and Members opposite may be making heavy weather right at the beginn...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c66GC (Link to this contribution) I had to listen to what the noble Lord had to say before deciding whether I would intervene. The bre...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c90GC (Link to this contribution) I join the noble Baroness in seeking an explanation of the provision. Everybody involved in local go...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c88-9GC (Link to this contribution) We are getting nearer agreement, but there is still room for much re-writing. I have read nowhere ab...

Lord Borrie | 678 c91GC (Link to this contribution) The mechanics of this sound awfully difficult. It will be clear from the beginning when in the ODA t...

Lord Borrie | 678 c84GC (Link to this contribution) I do not go so far as the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, or the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran, in liking ...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c82-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7:"Page 32, line 27, leave out ““, with the approval of the Secretary of State,”...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c85-7GC (Link to this contribution) Those checks and balances are there and I do not underestimate their significance, but I know who ta...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c87-8GC (Link to this contribution) Obviously I am not making myself clear. I will not ask the Minister to come back on the point, but I...

Lord Geddes | 678 c118GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until Thursday, 2 February at 2 pm.

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c118GC (Link to this contribution) When the Minister began, I thought that he overlooked the fact that Clause 4(3) does not require the...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c118GC (Link to this contribution) This may be a highly convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Thursday at 2 pm.

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 678 c113-4GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Baroness foreshadowed, I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 25 to 27. Despite her observati...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c114-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the discussion on these amendments. I understand that the noble Baroness, in her A...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c107GC (Link to this contribution) My concern is not post the games, but to do with planning permissions prior to the games. Clause 5(4...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c106-7GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is right—these are difficult issues because we cannot foresee with accuracy the situa...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c106GC (Link to this contribution) I rise because the Minister has raised the issue of the final disposal of the site. On the total fun...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c103-4GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise—I must have an out-of-date copy of the list, or something funny has happened. I am happy...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c95GC (Link to this contribution) I shall first come back to the noble Lord, Lord Borrie. The Bill provides that:"““The Secretary of S...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c99-101GC (Link to this contribution) I will detain my pleasure of discussing the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, until...

Lord Borrie | 678 c93GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that the amendment is not acceptable. It would be an astonishing piece of legislation if, for...

Baroness Billingham | 678 c92GC (Link to this contribution) We do exactly that. We sit back and absent ourselves. We have to do that because there is a Chinese ...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c93GC (Link to this contribution) I am even more puzzled than when I started. There is no difference between us as to the desirability...

Baroness Billingham | 678 c92GC (Link to this contribution) An urban regeneration company is not, but a UDA is. There are differences.

Lord Clement-Jones | 678 c72GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my noble friend Lady Hamwee will deal with the substance of the Minister’s remarks. H...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c67GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that the lawyers are not paid by the word. They should be paid according to the number of wor...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c73-4GC (Link to this contribution) Let us be careful about the issues of responsibility. I indicated that the chair of the ODA is the c...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c80-1GC (Link to this contribution) I think that the Minister has answered the point I wished to raise. But, to go back to his words, he...

Lord Addington | 678 c75-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 31, line 15, at end insert ““, and" ( ) equality matters, includin...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c74GC (Link to this contribution) If I rise with some hesitation, it is because I am all too well aware that the question raises a ran...

Baroness Thomas of Walliswood | 678 c65GC (Link to this contribution) Before I put the Question that that the Title be postponed, I remind your Lordships of two points of...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c66-7GC (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Lord says, and he is right to say that the words do not have any legal signifi...

Baroness Billingham | 678 c91-2GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may add a brief point. I chair an urban regeneration company. This is the precise framewor...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c88GC (Link to this contribution) I may not have been as accurate in my commonsense as I sought to be. I understand the noble Baroness...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c87GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I did not reply directly to Amendment No. 22, which concerns the question of consent b...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 678 c117-8GC (Link to this contribution) I will take advantage of the kindness of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, in responding on the amend...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c108GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to intervene again but I am becoming increasingly puzzled. Given all the work the Mayor h...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c108GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may add a point to the question here. If the specified case is one where the application i...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c105-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the way in which noble Lords have spoken to their amendments. The thought crossed ...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c102-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 21:"Page 3, line 7, after ““State”” insert ““and the Mayor of London””" The nob...

Viscount Simon | 678 c101GC (Link to this contribution) The first Division on the Speakership has been called. We will now adjourn until the final Division....

Lord Clement-Jones | 678 c95GC (Link to this contribution) My noble friend has made a compelling case for capping the liability of Londoners. I shall add a fur...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c98GC (Link to this contribution) I had hoped that my amendment, which seeks to replace ““may”” with ““shall””, would be accepted. But...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c98-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 20:"Page 2, line 43, at end insert ““but the Authority may not take over the fun...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 678 c92GC (Link to this contribution) So a UDA is almost in the position of a new towns commission, but not quite. That is exactly the pos...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c68-9GC (Link to this contribution) I beg to disagree with the noble Baroness on Amendment No. 2, although I am well aware of her signif...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c72GC (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Lord says. He or she will attend all meetings and will be expected to report. ...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c67-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2:"Page 31, line 9, at end insert—" ““( ) The Secretary of State shall app...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 678 c73GC (Link to this contribution) We are talking about his attendance at the Olympic board, which is chaired by the Secretary of State...

Baroness Hamwee | 678 c74-5GC (Link to this contribution) I certainly was not intending to imply that too little thought had gone into this—or that little tho...

Lord Glentoran | 678 c74GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to prolong the debate. Can I look on the Olympic board as a board of trustees?

Lord Addington | 678 c82GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry for taking quite so much time on this, but the clarification is important. I thank the Mi...

Lord Addington | 678 c81GC (Link to this contribution) I have a further question for the Minister. Is he giving us the assurance that—for instance—the high...

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