Parliamentary search - London Olympics Bill 2005-06

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Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

440 c759-840

Session

2005-06

Department

Department for Culture, Media and Sport

Legislative stage

Third reading and Report stage

Procedure

New clauses
Prince of Wales's consent
Queen's consent

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

London Olympics Bill. As amended in Standing Committee D.
Tuesday, 18 October 2005
Bills
House of Commons

London 2012 Olympics: first steps. Minutes of evidence 25 October 2005. (Bound with HC 552-i and HC 552-iii)
Tuesday, 25 October 2005
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

London 2012 Olympics: first steps. Minutes of evidence 1 November 2005. (Bound with HC 552-i and HC 552-ii)
Tuesday, 1 November 2005
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

London 2012 Olympics: first steps. Minutes of evidence 18 October 2005. (Bound with HC 552-ii and HC 552-iii)
Tuesday, 18 October 2005
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Hugh Robertson | 440 c762 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Richard Caborn | 440 c762 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it will. I have no doubt that the ODA will want to make to sure that its work is in the public ...

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Andrew Pelling | 440 c762 (Link to this contribution) The assembly will have a role in deciding the impost on the London council tax payer, but will the M...

Richard Caborn | 440 c761 (Link to this contribution) I will pass on the thanks of the two hon. Gentlemen to my staff. Although there have been some disag...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c761 (Link to this contribution) I join the hon. Member for Faversham and Mid-Kent (Hugh Robertson) in thanking the Minister and his ...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c760-1 (Link to this contribution) As this is the first group of amendments on Report, I begin by thanking the Minister for extending t...

Richard Caborn | 440 c760 (Link to this contribution) New clause 3 and new schedule 1 are needed to make the transfer of contracts to the Olympic delivery...

Speaker | 440 c759 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government new schedule 1—Transfer Schemes.

Speaker | 440 c762 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment No. 3, in page 23, line 35 [Clause 33], at end ...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c762 (Link to this contribution) The amendment and the new clause were tabled in my name and that of the hon. Member for Bath (Mr. Fo...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c762 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting the hon. Gentleman so early in his speech and thank him for indicating ...

Richard Caborn | 440 c764 (Link to this contribution) It is £213 million.

Hugh Robertson | 440 c764 (Link to this contribution) Yes, indeed I do. If one looks around London, it is fairly self-evident that security has been tight...

Andy Reed | 440 c764 (Link to this contribution) So far, the hon. Gentleman has told us why London council tax payers should not make a larger contri...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c764 (Link to this contribution) Given today’s security situation, I cannot see how London can be kept entirely secure within that bu...

Simon Hughes | 440 c763 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is obviously right about his party. He will know that others of us who participat...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c762-3 (Link to this contribution) The Olympic surcharge will start in April 2006, and Londoners will pay between £13.33 for a band A d...

Chris Bryant | 440 c763-4 (Link to this contribution) When the Culture, Media and Sport Committee, on which I served, first considered security, everybody...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c763 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for those comments. I think that he will reassured by what I am about to ...

Richard Caborn | 440 c759 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c776 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend confirm that his understanding of the proposal is the same as mine? We are talki...

Simon Hughes | 440 c776 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. Nobody is saying that Londoners would not have to bear their share of the b...

Pete Wishart | 440 c775 (Link to this contribution) I accept some of what the hon. Gentleman says. However, we have only to consider what happened yeste...

Simon Hughes | 440 c775-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not say for a second that Scotland does not make a huge contribution to the UK economy, and I k...

Richard Caborn | 440 c777-8 (Link to this contribution) Before I address the details of the new clause, I want to make a couple of comments about how we app...

Mark Field | 440 c778 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman can clarify the situation in the interests of all London council ta...

Chris Bryant | 440 c776 (Link to this contribution) Funny, that.

Simon Hughes | 440 c776-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says, ““Funny, that””. People are elected, as he was elected for the Rhondda, to ...

Simon Hughes | 440 c775 (Link to this contribution) But the reality is that when the Mayor stands for election and determines how much he will charge as...

Richard Caborn | 440 c775 (Link to this contribution) The budget of the LDA, like any other development agency, comes from the Exchequer.

Richard Ottaway | 440 c772 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman remind the House how much the Scottish Parliament cost?

Pete Wishart | 440 c772 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for mentioning that. I will refer to the Scottish Parliament in ...

Jo Swinson | 440 c772-3 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that although the Olympic games will obviously benefit London grea...

Pete Wishart | 440 c773 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. There is genuine enthusiasm in Scotland for an Olympic games, and there is massive enthu...

Jo Swinson | 440 c773 (Link to this contribution) indicated dissent.

Pete Wishart | 440 c773 (Link to this contribution) Some 78 per cent. of the Scottish people believe that we should have our own Scottish team in the 20...

Chris Bryant | 440 c773 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has already decried his Scottish sporting prowess, so there is no point in his tr...

Pete Wishart | 440 c773-4 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Member for Croydon, South suggests from a sedentary position, Estonia, Lithuania and oth...

Simon Hughes | 440 c774-5 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support my hon. Friend the Member for Bath (Mr. Foster) and the hon. Member for Faversham ...

Pete Wishart | 440 c772 (Link to this contribution) : Curiously, I find myself joining the Minister in opposing the new clause. I find absurd the sugges...

Jo Swinson | 440 c795-6 (Link to this contribution) I have a great deal of sympathy with the points raised by the hon. Member for Croydon, South (Richar...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c796 (Link to this contribution) For reasons that I entirely understand, the Minister missed the Westminster Hall debate last week, i...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c790 (Link to this contribution) I listened with interest to what the Minister said. The good news is that Members on both sides of t...

Richard Ottaway | 440 c794-5 (Link to this contribution) : I beg to move amendment No. 1, in page 3, line 10, at end insert—

Andy Reed | 440 c789 (Link to this contribution) The case that has been put forward by UK Sport is fairly robust and well argued, so I hope that my r...

Richard Caborn | 440 c789-90 (Link to this contribution) There has not been a Chancellor in the recent past who has been more supportive of sport. The Centra...

Richard Caborn | 440 c789 (Link to this contribution) I echo some of the arguments made by the hon. Member for Bath (Mr. Foster). I agree that the approac...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c788-9 (Link to this contribution) As ever, I am delighted to follow the hon. Member for Loughborough (Mr. Reed). On this occasion, I a...

Andy Reed | 440 c787 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend knows me well enough to know that I am particularly concerned about that danger. It w...

Baroness Hoey | 440 c787 (Link to this contribution) I share my hon. Friend’s logic. Does he agree that the fundamental principle behind our having the O...

Andy Reed | 440 c786 (Link to this contribution) At Prime Minister’s Question Time, the Prime Minister usually takes the opportunity to run through t...

Speaker | 440 c786 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman to confine his remarks to the new clause.

Andy Reed | 440 c786-7 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker. New clause 2 refers to how the £320 million will be used. I would...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c779 (Link to this contribution) Time is marching on and we have a great deal more to debate tonight. I am afraid that we have reache...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c783-5 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. I tabled the new clause with my hon. Friend t...

Andy Reed | 440 c786 (Link to this contribution) : I am grateful to have the opportunity to speak about the new clause and about the comments of the ...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c786 (Link to this contribution) indicated assent.

Richard Caborn | 440 c779 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. That is why we say that all those factors will be taken into account. The memorandum of ...

Simon Hughes | 440 c778-9 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the Minister when he suggests that, if the land held by the LDA were to increase in val...

Mark Field | 440 c771 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend. I hope that he is not smoking those fags either in this place or anywhere el...

Mark Field | 440 c770-1 (Link to this contribution) I endorse the comments of my hon. Friend the Member for Faversham and Mid-Kent (Hugh Robertson) and ...

Chris Bryant | 440 c770 (Link to this contribution) I still think that the hon. Gentleman is coming remarkably close to threatening that whatever happen...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c770 (Link to this contribution) I was simply making the point that if there is not some movement, and bearing in mind that there is ...

Chris Bryant | 440 c769-70 (Link to this contribution) I was about to deal with that point. I suspect that there would not be much support in the country f...

Richard Ottaway | 440 c769 (Link to this contribution) I accept the hon. Gentleman’s point, but if there is an overrun, how would he feel if the people of ...

Chris Bryant | 440 c768-9 (Link to this contribution) : I am pleased to follow the hon. Member for Bath (Mr. Foster). However, I noted that he referred to...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c768 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an interesting point, but answering it would be beyond my pay grade. My hon. Fr...

Baroness Kramer | 440 c768 (Link to this contribution) Does not my hon. Friend agree that as Londoners are sharing the risk of overruns, a portion of the r...

Andy Reed | 440 c766 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, I cannot give the hon. Gentleman that assurance, but I am sure that the Minister is liste...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c766-8 (Link to this contribution) : I am delighted to follow the hon. Member for Loughborough (Mr. Reed), because he has teased the Ho...

Andy Reed | 440 c765-6 (Link to this contribution) The Opposition have tabled a new clause and it is only right for us to respond. Indeed, I am delight...

Philip Hollobone | 440 c765 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman, like me, is worried about the amount that we are raising from the national lotte...

Andy Reed | 440 c766 (Link to this contribution) I would be more inclined to support anything that went a bit further than this proposal, to be hones...

Adam Afriyie | 440 c766 (Link to this contribution) The estimate of the cost of the Olympic games seems to have been made by the Treasury. If the new cl...

Andrew Pelling | 440 c765 (Link to this contribution) Mary Reilly, chair of the London Development Agency, said in the Financial Times that the estimate o...

Andy Reed | 440 c765 (Link to this contribution) Having heard what the hon. Member for Faversham and Mid-Kent (Hugh Robertson) had to say, I have an ...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c765 (Link to this contribution) Indeed; Mary Reilly made that point when she appeared before the Select Committee two weeks ago. My...

Richard Caborn | 440 c817 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the RDAs can take those actions.

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c817 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has convinced us all with the way in which he has spoken to his amendments, and I for o...

Richard Caborn | 440 c814-7 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely not. In 1998 I took that Bill through Parliament, setting up the RDAs, and they were foun...

Peter Bone | 440 c812 (Link to this contribution) Wellingborough sees the Olympic games as a great opportunity, especially from the tourism point of v...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c810-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall leave the Minister to comment on the Government amendments and concentrate on amendment No. ...

Richard Caborn | 440 c813-4 (Link to this contribution) Before I move on the detail of the amendment, I want to note that the nations and regions sub-commit...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c814 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is repeating much of what he said in Committee, which, frankly, was unacceptable then a...

Andy Reed | 440 c812-3 (Link to this contribution) Strangely, a consensus is building across the Chamber. I agree with many of the sentiments expressed...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c813 (Link to this contribution) I have a parochial concern relating to my Kent constituency that is also shared by Essex. Both count...

Richard Caborn | 440 c823-5 (Link to this contribution) Government amendments Nos. 21 and 22 clarify the circumstances in which the Secretary of State can s...

Speaker | 440 c822-3 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government amendment No. 22 Amendment No...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c817 (Link to this contribution) With that assurance from the Minister, I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Richard Caborn | 440 c818 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 25, in page 27, line 23, leave out second ‘and’.

Speaker | 440 c818 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments Nos. 26 and 16.

Richard Caborn | 440 c818 (Link to this contribution) This group of Government amendments addresses a very constructive point made by the hon. Member for ...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c818 (Link to this contribution) Government amendments Nos. 25 and 26 are not contentious, and Government amendment No. 16 has the su...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c819 (Link to this contribution) Earlier, we discussed another amendment, the subject of which had been proposed in Committee by the ...

Richard Caborn | 440 c819 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the hon. Member for Bath (Mr. Foster) says, and we went over this in Committee. We are v...

Richard Caborn | 440 c822 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 21, in page 44, line 27, leave out paragraph (a).

Maria Miller | 440 c804-6 (Link to this contribution) I would like briefly to speak in support of amendments Nos. 2, 4 and 7. The Olympics is a unique opp...

Andy Reed | 440 c803-4 (Link to this contribution) I wish briefly to speak in support of amendment No. 2. Whether it is carried is a different matter, ...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c800-3 (Link to this contribution) The group under consideration comprises a string of different amendments and I am the only hon. Memb...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c798-800 (Link to this contribution) I want to speak in support of the amendments in my name and that of the hon. Member for Bath (Mr. Fo...

Speaker | 440 c798 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government amendment No. 19 Amendment No...

Richard Ottaway | 440 c798 (Link to this contribution) I am obliged to the Minister. There has been frustration, although I am the first to acknowledge tha...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c798 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 2, in clause 18, page 12, line 41, after ‘Committee,’, insert—

Richard Caborn | 440 c797-8 (Link to this contribution) Each case is considered on its own merits, but relocation costs, new stock and loss of profits can b...

Richard Caborn | 440 c796-7 (Link to this contribution) Clause 4(5) ensures that everyone whose land is injuriously affected by Olympic construction works w...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c810 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for the reassurances that he has provided. It is fair to say that both sides of...

Richard Caborn | 440 c809-10 (Link to this contribution) I would expect the BACC to be consulted, but let me put this issue into context. We are talking abou...

Speaker | 440 c810 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments Nos. 17, 18 and 27.

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c810 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 15, in page 25, line 5 [Clause 35], leave out subsection (2).

Richard Caborn | 440 c807 (Link to this contribution) I can reassure the House that anyone listening to a radio programme or reading in the vicinity of Ol...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c807 (Link to this contribution) indicated dissent.

Richard Caborn | 440 c807-9 (Link to this contribution) That shows that, had the hon. Gentleman waited for those pearls of wisdom to fall from my lips, he w...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c809 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister moves on to the two extremely exciting Government amendments, I should point out...

Richard Caborn | 440 c806-7 (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments relates to the regulations that will be put in place under clause 18 to con...

Richard Caborn | 440 c839-40 (Link to this contribution) As I said earlier, it has been a privilege and pleasure to take the Bill through Parliament. The con...

Andy Reed | 440 c836-9 (Link to this contribution) : I am delighted to discuss the Bill on Third Reading. It has been a great pleasure to take part in ...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c835-6 (Link to this contribution) : In some parts of America, politicians can have their speeches read into the record without having ...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c828-9 (Link to this contribution) Time is marching on so I shall be brief. I thank the Minister for his comments in connection with am...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c825-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the Minister’s introductory remarks and some of the assurances that he has put on ...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c829 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful for the Minister’s extremely brief, unhelpful response.

Richard Caborn | 440 c829 (Link to this contribution) We have all been reading from scripts on the final group of amendments and have been extremely well ...

Richard Caborn | 440 c829-30 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be read the Third time. I shall start by thanking all the members of t...

Speaker | 440 c829 (Link to this contribution) Order. The Minister has responded to his own Government amendment. The hon. Gentleman does not have ...

Richard Caborn | 440 c830-1 (Link to this contribution) That has been mentioned in several meetings at which I have been present, although not in any great ...

Philip Hollobone | 440 c830 (Link to this contribution) : What consideration has been given to the conjunction of the Olympic games in 2012 with, if all goe...

Lyn Brown | 440 c832-5 (Link to this contribution) For me, the central issue in the debate is whether the 2012 games are remembered not just for provid...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c831-2 (Link to this contribution) It is exactly five months since 6 July, when we won the games bid in Singapore. I want to finish my ...

Richard Caborn | 440 c778 (Link to this contribution) I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is that such things will be reviewed at the time. That...

Hugh Robertson | 440 c764-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right, but it is difficult for me to give him an answer. Every time we have as...

Richard Ottaway | 440 c771 (Link to this contribution) : May I assist my hon. Friend with his figures? The back of a fag packet calculation that I have don...

Lord Foster of Bath | 440 c812 (Link to this contribution) I thought for a moment that the hon. Gentleman was going to ask me to explain where Wellingborough w...

Pete Wishart | 440 c766 (Link to this contribution) The chances of the London Olympic games coming in on budget are about the same as Scotland’s chances...

Richard Ottaway | 440 c797 (Link to this contribution) I apologise if I am pre-empting the Minister, but does the case law provide compensation for loss of...

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