Finance (No. 2) Bill

If the hon. Gentleman will allow me to finish, I will allow him to intervene again. Steady down. This is about the size of the national debt and the deficit and their relationship to our AAA rating. If we had not taken the action that we did, it is likely that we would have lost that rating, which would have made all our interest costs considerably higher and the deficit massively bigger, causing the country even greater problems.