I wish to add a grace note in favour of what my noble friend has just said. The object of the amendment is to shift the operative word from "systems" to "information". I do not know whether that is advisable or not, but this is not the way to do it. I also echo what the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, said. He described a process that we have all witnessed in the past three or four years in Europe as a whole, where the Foreign Office element of the United States of Europe is being built in anticipation of the signature and ratification of the treaty. That has come to pass and no doubt this Bill will come to pass, but the House deserved the courtesy of an analysis of what is afoot outside the House before it was assumed that we would rubber-stamp this piece of legislation.
Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill
Proceeding contribution from
Lord Elton
(Conservative)
in the House of Lords on Wednesday, 4 November 2009.
It occurred during Debate on bills on Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill.
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