Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

My Lords, having heard what has been said, I support my noble friend on the Front Bench. Education is not my main subject in the House, but having listened to the debate I believe that independence for colleges—Oxford or Cambridge or any of them, although I admit that I happened to be at Cambridge—is crucial. That is the point that my noble friend is making. I do not know anything about education, but it seems terrible that the independence of the universities should be put at risk.