Welfare Reform Bill

I do not demur from that in the slightest. As I said, I thought that I heard the Minister utter the words "now committed". We will look at Hansard tomorrow and discover whether he did utter those words. If he did, I was very surprised to hear them. I, of course, accept that the number of pensioners in poverty has been reduced by half a million, I think the Minister said, by the operation of pension credit, and that is clearly a good thing. As far as these individual pilots are concerned, does the Minister really think that one three-month pilot will be sufficient, or will we have a succession of pilots before we have a final rollout? Clearly, the clause provides for that. Equally, it provides for a pilot of anything up to 12 months; it could be one month, it could be 12 months. I do not know whether the Minister wants to answer that question.