Counter-Terrorism Bill

moved Amendment No. 3: 3: Clause 18, page 14, line 5, leave out ““(whether”” The noble Baroness said: My Lords, we are bringing this amendment back because, on reflection, and having read the Minister’s reply to the points we raised in Committee, we are not happy that Clause 18(4) is so widely drawn. We wonder why the provision that, "““the reference to crime includes any conduct that … constitutes a criminal offence””" and so on, is necessary. We can understand that position as regards the UK, but my question in Committee was: what about crimes committed in another country, which this subsection encompasses, that are not crimes in the UK? I invited the Minister to give examples of situations in which information might be held on an individual who had committed a crime in another country which was not a crime here—for example, the consumption of alcohol. The Minister’s reply related mostly to terrorism, which is internationally recognised as a crime; but I had hoped to draw out why the Government had chosen such a wide definition of criminal offences in the Bill, including those that would certainly not be crimes in the UK. By tabling the amendment again, I hope that the Minister will answer in a way that I can understand and give some of the examples that I had asked for. We left it open for more information to be given between Committee and Report, but we have not received any. I would like that information to be put on the record. I beg to move.