Climate Change Bill [HL]

With respect, I have not really addressed my noble friend’s point; it went somewhat beyond the amendment, so I am not briefed on it. In principle, I suspect that there is nothing wrong with that. The argument is that the facts and transparency of the Committee on Climate Change are inevitably going to have to lead to an agreement. It is not reporting as the NAO reports; it is reporting on a specific department’s activities, looking at value for money, and economy, efficiency and effectiveness. In order to get the debate right, there must be some agreement on either the budget and how the money is being spent—or mis-spent. When the NAO report is published, we do not want, as my noble friend says, the accounting officer of the department saying, ““Well, these conclusions and recommendations are all very well, but the facts in the report are wrong””. Well, no Permanent Secretary is ever in a position to say that, because the reports are only published after getting the department’s agreement.