Climate Change Bill [HL]

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Puttnam, for his support at least for the spirit of the amendment. My noble friend Lord Teverson had the idea better than the Minister that this is a snapshot of where we should be by 2050. I say to the noble Lord, Lord Woolmer of Leeds, that if we still have a really healthy carbon trade in 2050, we shall have failed worldwide because we do not want that much carbon to be traded. Internationally, we must have low-carbon economies. Although I completely accept that some things will still be carbon-hungry, we will also have developed such things as carbon sinks and some of the exciting things that were expounded such as carbon-eating life forms. There is much to think about. The Minister said that the RIA was only an indicative estimate. I am not sure of the difference between an indicative estimate and actual figures. I was working from the best figures which were an indicative estimate. I hope that by Report we will be much clearer about what we mean by the UK target and how much of that will be achieved within the UK. The purpose of the amendment was to explore those very difficult issues. In the mean time, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 9 had been withdrawn from the Marshalled List.] Clause 1 agreed to.