Pensions Bill

My Lords, I agree. I do not particularly like them, but all we are doing is politically or in other ways bandying figures around. The whole point is that if one has an independent, authoritative commission, it will be much more effective in saying, ““No, the Government’s figure is wrong””, or in coming up with its own figures. That seems a much better forum to do it in than through this kind of political argument. That is the point I am making.