Serious Crime Bill [HL]

I start by saying to the noble Lord, Lord Henley, that the destruction of Carthage is seen by very few as having been a good thing. It was a civilisation of great grace, great beauty and great intelligence. When it was lost, it was much regretted and it could not be brought back. Some may see some real similarities between the destruction of that and the protection we currently have the advantage of having through the use of intercept.