Welfare Reform Bill

That is really an unfair representation of what has been said. If we are to deal with this properly, we must deal with it objectively and on the basis of facts. If sanctions were to be contracted out, I have already outlined that all the safeguards that exist under current arrangements would be in place. The proposition that, should someone have their benefits unfairly cut off, they would have to go through Human Rights Act procedures to get redress is simply not right. If I may say so, the noble Lord is out of order in putting things in that way; it does not help our debate.