Welfare Reform Bill

After that contribution, I feel that we on this side of the Room will enjoy the Committee more than the Minister. Having listened carefully, the longer I listened to the Minister's reply, the more confused I got. If he is saying that we could achieve what the amendment of my noble friend Lady Thomas would achieve by doing things in another way, that does not answer the question asked by the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis. Are you going to do it or not? If we do not have an answer to that, it is not reasonable to ask my noble friend to withdraw her amendment.