Health Bill

I very much support what my noble friend has said. Norway and Sweden are reasonable examples. They do not have this huge volume of signage. To the best of my knowledge they principally work on the basis of the international ““No Smoking”” symbol. That is really no different from road traffic signs, is it? You have one notice that says ““No Entry””. You do not have another half dozen notices alongside it saying the same thing in every language. It is quite clear; it is a red sign with a white disc on it. It is the same with many other international signs. The whole idea that you have to have the international ““No Smoking”” symbol on any premises is fine, but there is no need for a statement that it is illegal to smoke on the premises—that is pretty obvious if you already have the sign up. Then there should be information on the maximum fines for smoking on the premises. I am not clear whether that will cover all the five categories, plus the notice about the fixed penalty reduction if you pay on time. Is there a sort of bar menu that tells you what all these fines are? That is not clear. Then, apparently, you should display a telephone number. Honestly, if you have something to complain about in life, you get hold of the local authority, or whoever it may be, and make your complaint. You do not have to have a telephone number on every single piece of material, telling you where to ring if you have a problem. An A4 sign is about the size of the Bill. To have signs that size all over the pub—and it is not clear whether there will be dozens of them around the place—is over the top. What is going to happen in those areas that are heavily linguistically orientated towards one of the ethnic minorities? I assume there will have to be some sort of language used there, although I argue that the international sign would be more than adequate. I am also not clear about what is to happen in vehicles. Small delivery vehicles have only small windscreens. The road tax licence is small so that it does not prevent the driver seeing out of the windscreen. It will be ludicrous if he has to put up a whole lot of these signs. I am sorry to ask the Minister to do this, but surely he should find out what they do in the rest of Europe where, so far as I know, they are not producing a huge list of requirements. He should learn from them and produce a modest requirement. In my view, it should just be the international sign for no smoking.