Work and Families Bill

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. I have a couple of comments. I did not attempt to put any words into the Minister’s mouth. I shall look very carefully at what I said and what I thought it meant. On the fact that the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, cannot support us on this amendment, I shall simply have to bear that with as much fortitude as I can muster. On the fact that the figure is still 10 per cent—I am still talking about it—the Minister is saying that he thinks it will be closer to that than the 100 per cent that was bandied around. We were talking about the figure being close to £600 a week, whereas at present it is £290. If it went up with the RPI, it might be £300 or whatever. I really think that as these consultations will take forever. The Minister has said that it will be an affirmative regulation, but we cannot do anything about that; we cannot amend it. I really do not like passing Bills with we know not what regulations and with consultations still taking place. In those circumstances, I shall test the opinion of the House, so that the Minister will know that I am serious about the way in which these Bills are conducted. On Question, Whether the said amendment (No. 15) shall be agreed to? Their Lordships divided: Contents, 75; Not-Contents, 136.