Health Bill

I am old enough to remember him too. I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, but he is really getting mixed up between separation and ventilation. A number of us have been saying that there can be separation—absolute separation, where you have a smoking room where people who smoke can go in and those who want to risk the so-called ETS can go in with them. That will be properly ventilated. Staff do not have to enter it. If people want drinks, they can go to get them from the bar. That is what we mean by separation. I simply cannot believe that that is impossible. It would in no circumstances involve hurting people’s health in any way, unless they decided that they wanted to be hurt by going into the room specifically set aside for smokers. That is why some of us are getting a little frustrated that we are not getting that message across. I wish that we could, because it is a solution to a problem that some of us approach from different angles. Earlier, we were getting a little heated, which of course I and every other Member of the Committee will regret, but I must repeat that the Committee has the right and, indeed, the duty properly to examine the Bill.