Work and Families Bill

First, I most definitely thank the Minister for that extraordinarily long and comprehensive explanation. It would be ungracious to say that the longer the noble Lord went on, the darker the room became. In fact, it became lighter and then darker again as I rose to my feet—so that would be out of order. As the Minister knows, I said clearly twice on moving the amendment that these were probing amendments. I wanted us to consider them because we found the figures that were provided incomprehensible, and we either have to look up through the link where the Minister told us to, or read carefully what he said to make it more comprehensible now, because it is difficult while listening to all of that to take in such a complicated matter—and it is complicated. Perhaps I may say to the noble Lord, Lord Razzall, that I was not nodding at the principle, I was nodding at the fact that the Minister said that it was regrettable that the CBI had changed its mind. Indeed, it is regrettable, because the CBI has been supportive of practically all the employment laws that there have been so far. That was the point he made that I was nodding at.