EU Financial Management

: Did my hon. Friend notice that when the Economic Secretary remarked on how things could be improved, he gave us verbiage and very vague bureaucratic processes? Does my hon. Friend agree that if we really want to clean up an organisation, from the top, we must say that people who preside over fraud or commit fraud are fired and action is taken against them and that the people who spot it—whistleblowers—are rewarded and promoted? Until we get to that point, are we not going to face this situation year after year, because those at the top of the Commission and the other European organisations do not send a clear message that fraud is the most important thing to root out?