Identity Cards Bill

: I do not know whether my hon. and learned Friend heard the remarks by Commissioner Frattini on ““The World at One”” today—[Interruption.] I am sad to hear that he did not. Commissioner Frattini implied that he was concerned that there should be one border—namely, the European Union border. In the light of the remarks by my right hon. Friend the Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood), perhaps my hon. and learned Friend will accept that at the heart of the problem is a view that we should have a border of Europe as a whole, as compared with those matters in respect of which passports are given—namely, access to the United Kingdom?