The hon. Gentleman anticipates my next point. He must have seen the document that I have in front of me.
Scotland currently has the same system for election to the Scottish Parliament. As I understand it, however, there are no proposals for change. Had the issue been a great concern, even at election time, when preparing the Labour party manifesto, the issue could have been addressed. Were the Scottish system so imperfect, changes could have been made when the Scottish Parliament (Constituencies) Act 2004 was passed. The Arbuthnott commission, however, reported last week, and concluded:"““Candidates for election to the Scottish Parliament should not be prohibited from standing in a constituency and on the regional list at the same election””."
The Secretary of State was so worried by what the commission said that he had to get a press release out really fast. His response to the Arbuthnott commission on boundary differences and voting systems in Scotland stated:"““The commission’s recommendations apply to Scotland, and do not reflect the different circumstances in Wales.””"
I hope that the Secretary of State will let me know what conversations he has had with Sir John Arbuthnott. I do not know how many Members have read the Secretary of State’s press release, because he went on to say:"““I am confident that if Sir John Arbuthnott had considered the systematic abuses carried out by list Members in Wales, he would have reached exactly the same conclusion as we have—that a ban on dual candidacy is the only effective solution.””"
I hope that the Secretary of State has discussed that with Sir John Arbuthnott. I tried to ring Sir John this morning to find out his opinion, but he is away on holiday. I spoke to another member of the Arbuthnott commission this morning, however, who said that the commission considered the situation in Wales exceedingly carefully, so much so that the Secretary of State will find that the Arbuthnott commission refers to Wales in several places, specifically in paragraph 4.21, which alludes to the parallel situation and, for those Members who are interested, states:"““Referred to in Wales as the ‘Clwyd West’ question, this might in Scotland be called the ‘Cunninghame South’ question””."
Wales was therefore at the forefront of the minds of members of the Arbuthnott commission. It also refers to Wales in paragraph 4.58, noting specifically that these proposals would affect the quality of candidates. I agree with that. [Interruption.] The Secretary of State is now laughing, so, obviously, he is rubbishing the Arbuthnott commission.
Government of Wales Bill
Proceeding contribution from
Cheryl Gillan
(Conservative)
in the House of Commons on Monday, 30 January 2006.
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Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Government of Wales Bill.
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