Charities Bill [HL]

Fair enough. The Government have   moved some way on the Bill. As the noble Lord, Lord Phillips of Sudbury, said, it may be perverse not   to include the words ““fair and reasonable””, particularly as that would give a great deal of comfort to a large proportion of the charity world. With regard to the comments of the noble Baroness on ““relevant””, I am not a lawyer, but they sounded a little pedantic. It may be a nice legal point that, as a non-lawyer, I do not understand. My father who was a barrister probably would have understood, and my grandfather, who was Master of the Rolls, probably would have understood even better. I am not a lawyer and I have no intention of becoming one. I would probably not be accepted or pass the exams in any case. I feel that ““fair and reasonable”” should be on the face of the Bill. It is not my intention to divide the   House tonight, but I reserve the right to return to the matter on Report. In the mean time, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 18 not moved.]